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From: Coolbobj

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191984.14 in reply to 191984.13
Date: 7/29/2011 7:31:20 PM
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Another really awful element of this that wasn't thought out through this haphazard change was that cross-training isn't even fair. It can't be fair for everyone. I noticed that primary skills unrelated to training can pop through cross-training, so your league mates might be getting outside defence pops on their guards while you're getting shot blocking pops with yours. I thought it was inconceivable that cross-training would be this poorly thought out, but you can colour me surprised.

Wow.

Or it could be the other way around, also these extra pops would not be common enough to make that big of a difference.

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From: Stajan

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191984.15 in reply to 191984.14
Date: 7/29/2011 7:51:25 PM
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It's not fair for someone. Any completely random advantage is not what we should be aiming for here.

From: pmfg10

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191984.16 in reply to 191984.15
Date: 7/29/2011 8:30:05 PM
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I don't think that you get, that if someone gets an OD pop to MARVELOUS while not training OD (via crosstraining) then it's because the OD sublevel is SUPER HIGH and it won't make a big difference ingame because 14,99 IS THE SAME THING that 15,0, the only difference is that one says wondrous and the other says marvelous.

From: Coolbobj

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191984.17 in reply to 191984.15
Date: 7/29/2011 8:32:16 PM
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Yeah but its not like you'll be getting these random pops every week. If there is an advantage it is a small one at best, which is why I don't understand a lot of the complaining.

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From: pmfg10

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191984.18 in reply to 191984.17
Date: 7/29/2011 8:36:52 PM
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Because if you train OD 3 weeks, you can get 3 full pops in rebounding, and it goes from respectable to prominent and my player's salary will increase a lot and my player will cap and I DON'T LIKE THIS TRAINING CHANGE IT.

:Insert moar rage here:

Oh wait, that's not what is going to happen...

From: Marot

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191984.19 in reply to 191984.18
Date: 7/30/2011 8:19:59 AM
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For managers who train in a monoskilled way this will have 0 impact. If they training an outside player, insted of having IS 2 or 3, they will have it in 3 or 4.


But when you train real SF's you can train in 1 season 3 different types of training. That's training your player in most of his skills, so it's false that i'm going to have 1 skill(with luck) from cross training.

Just an example, my SF is close to pop in;

JS
OD
ID
SB
IS

With crossed training i would get at least 4 skills up.

Now it's on 40k, but when he will be a 80k SF, ofc i won't be happy that he increases 1 level of RE or whatever skill he had high.



You understand now, that bad managers who train monoskilled players won't have any problems, but managers who care on training, will be affected by this bad system?

From: pmfg10

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191984.20 in reply to 191984.19
Date: 7/30/2011 9:11:38 AM
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What you don't understand is that your player who increases the rebounding, just increases a small value which will contribute low to the salary because sublevels count in your player's salary.

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From: Stajan

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191984.22 in reply to 191984.16
Date: 7/30/2011 9:33:09 AM
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I already see many instances where players got pops in a tertiary primary. Are you sure the 10% (on average) that goes into tertiary skills isn't completely random? I find it hard to believe that this many players have the necessary 14.99 type of sub levels to pop with such small training.

From: strik.r

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191984.23 in reply to 191984.22
Date: 7/30/2011 10:41:27 AM
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Me too.. Cross training doesn't look that random. It seems at it is picking the skills with the higher sublevels.

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191984.24 in reply to 191984.23
Date: 7/30/2011 12:24:15 PM
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I don't think so. I have trained stamina and I have players that I know have very high sublevels. I got no pop other than stamina.

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