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From: Mr. Glass

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244598.14 in reply to 244598.13
Date: 6/21/2013 8:47:10 PM
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I didn't say it made the players skill any better. I was saying it creates more money for lesser teams when they bring a quality player to the market from training.

The prices are already high due to user demands. Its a bidding system of user demands. Yes there is over pricing for under skilled players. But this fall on the system in place and user demand rather than too much money on the market and inflation out right. Also time of the gme maybe 18 seasons ago you could get hi skilled player for 200 thousand , now he is going for 20million in today market.

Nothing we can do about inflation in a bidding system as such other than look for quality. Even then your going to be having to pay a lot cash for it. Like I said it no easy answer.. I think as long as teams are spending on the market and newer manager can bring quality youth for major profit its ok. When teams stop spending on the market then there is a huge problem.



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244598.16 in reply to 244598.15
Date: 6/21/2013 9:30:18 PM
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Players still go for millions. I seen a few 30+ yrs old going for millions. if your looking for a nice pf/center yes they a are dime a dozen and they do come cheap if wait and look around.. But find a nice pg with all around skills.. it not going to happen for cheap.

I know I have looked. Every one is into big man thing . they are not hard to build, it quite simple to do. But build a all round pg not easy and buying one is even harder

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244598.17 in reply to 244598.1
Date: 6/21/2013 10:21:24 PM
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I was thinking about how to get rid of the free agents and came up with an idea to remove the bonus money for cup wins - on a global scale this would take out BILLIONS out of the economy, we could get rid of the free agents and maybe (?) raise the value of players on active teams.


That's a start, but I think we need to take away gate revenue and TV contract money to really get people to spend more money on the market. ;)

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244598.18 in reply to 244598.17
Date: 6/22/2013 4:15:32 AM
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I was thinking about how to get rid of the free agents and came up with an idea to remove the bonus money for cup wins - on a global scale this would take out BILLIONS out of the economy, we could get rid of the free agents and maybe (?) raise the value of players on active teams.


That's a start, but I think we need to take away gate revenue and TV contract money to really get people to spend more money on the market. ;)


Oh come on, don't try to act dumb.

My idea is based on the assumption that free agents take out much more money than cup revenue brings - I can't prove that, but as the economy is deflating ever since we saw those guys hit the market I think its a fair guess.

So, if we want to get rid of them AND not go back to the high inflation days, we should find a decent countermeasure, which could be cutting the cup bonusses. Its not that hard to understand, question is if my assumptions are somewhat accurate. If a GM or a BB (haha, joke) could enlighten us with some data that would be cool.

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244598.19 in reply to 244598.18
Date: 6/22/2013 4:35:30 AM
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I was thinking about how to get rid of the free agents and came up with an idea to remove the bonus money for cup wins - on a global scale this would take out BILLIONS out of the economy, we could get rid of the free agents and maybe (?) raise the value of players on active teams.


That's a start, but I think we need to take away gate revenue and TV contract money to really get people to spend more money on the market. ;)


Oh come on, don't try to act dumb.

My idea is based on the assumption that free agents take out much more money than cup revenue brings - I can't prove that, but as the economy is deflating ever since we saw those guys hit the market I think its a fair guess.

So, if we want to get rid of them AND not go back to the high inflation days, we should find a decent countermeasure, which could be cutting the cup bonusses. Its not that hard to understand, question is if my assumptions are somewhat accurate. If a GM or a BB (haha, joke) could enlighten us with some data that would be cool.

Your questions are dumb
The market is in a deflation period,so even if you take out FA alone you don't go in an inflation mode
But taking out the cup bonuses,as I have explained to you in many previous posts,you would put the market in an even worse deflation,and that's not what the game need

If you want FA to disappera,propose it,and there will be a quiet discussion here.But the community will NEVER accept a swap of cup bonuses for FA elimination,put this thing in your head

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244598.21 in reply to 244598.10
Date: 6/22/2013 7:10:28 AM
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The bolded part doesn't make any sense.
When people want to introduce changes, they should always think why the system works like that.
Cup prizes are there as a trade-off, so you either focus on league matches or cup matches.


Its one more TIE per week. So there is still a bonus, plus it has a huge impact on your fan survey.

Oh, yeah, let me lose on purpose one league match per week for one more TiE! It's 100% worth it!

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244598.22 in reply to 244598.19
Date: 6/22/2013 7:56:25 AM
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Look, as long as we don't know the numbers your wild guess is as good as mine. I ESTIMATE that FA money drain > cup bonusses, you say its not. Thats okay, I have no problem with that, we won't be able to prove it anyway. To call my idea dumb, is pretty arrogant though.

Also I find it quite funny that you can make bold statements on what the community will or will not accept. You are not the community.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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244598.23 in reply to 244598.20
Date: 6/22/2013 7:59:08 AM
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I feel like we have seen the peak of the deflation as it is. We see somewhat higher prices since some seasons back then what we did at one point. I feel the economy is pretty stable where it is now. Do we really want to stir the pot and see what have been lying on the bottom?


As I took a break from the game I am not that familiar with the transfer prices of a few seasons ago, but to me it seems much more worse than like 5-6 seasons ago. Might be because the market is flooded with old players that sell for pennies, maybe we should get rid of them

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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244598.24 in reply to 244598.22
Date: 6/22/2013 8:27:30 AM
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Look, as long as we don't know the numbers your wild guess is as good as mine. I ESTIMATE that FA money drain > cup bonusses, you say its not. Thats okay, I have no problem with that, we won't be able to prove it anyway. To call my idea dumb, is pretty arrogant though.

Also I find it quite funny that you can make bold statements on what the community will or will not accept. You are not the community.

No,the real problem is that you keep sustaining your selfish vision and doesn't even care to understand what people have tried to explain you
It does not matter at all if FA money drain > cup bonuses or is the contrary,the problem is the overall amount of teams who can make and spend money on the market,that is too little.Everyone here in this thread said to you that we are in a deflative period,so keep pushing to eliminate cup bonuses is wrong anyway,because it worsen this problem(number of teams who can spend money on the market and make the economic chain work) even if the overall amount of money remains the same with the swap among FA elimination and cup bonuses
Have you understood now?



Last edited by Steve Karenn at 6/22/2013 8:29:29 AM

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