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From: Jason

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Date: 6/26/2013 4:25:03 PM
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I think that is a bug. With an advanced doctor you shouldnt see injuries more than 3 weeks, i thought.



Speaking as another player in this game, (Not a GM), I would like to caution you against speaking so definitively about things that either you don't know for a fact, or is just your opinion.

There is no steadfast rule that says if you have a certain level Doctor that your injuries can't be longer than a certain period of time. The Phoenix Suns are known for having the best medical staff in the NBA, and all of sports probably, and yet that didn't prevent Joe Johnson from Smashing his face on the court and breaking his orbital bone a few years ago. The same is true in BB.

Having a high level Dr. in BB is a great prevention against injuries (in theory), and usually the injuries that are suffered are shorter in duration, but not always. The idea is a High level Dr will help keep players muscles loose and in top shape and all that....but if a player steps on another players foot, or get's body slammed on a flagrant foul, the best Dr in the world can't prevent those kinds of injuries.

I know a guy who has consistently runs with a L6 or L7 Dr and his team suffers more injuries (2 to 3 week injuries as well) than any other team I know.

Last edited by Jason at 6/26/2013 4:26:26 PM

From: Jason

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Date: 6/26/2013 4:29:55 PM
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Also....I think a better question or discussion to have is why is that Staff members salary increases 2% of every week...but their ability to peform their job stays the same?

If I buy a L4 Dr. and his salary goes from 16k a week, to 46K a week over time, he better be moving up the charts in terms of his reputation in that job. In what situation would an employer keep raising an employees pay, and yet the employees ability to perform the job stays exactly the same? STUPID!

From: E.B.W.

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I apologize. Im only trying to help. I think i was very clear that i wasnt speaking definitely by using phrases such as "I think" and "I thought". I didnt say "its a bug". The only reason i replied to him is because i remembered seeing somethingabout the doctors effect on injuries in the forums, but it turned out it was in the suggestion forums, which is why my understanding of the situation was wrong. I respect your opinion however i do not believe when i answered him, i was speaking definitely as you claimed i did. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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From: Jason

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Date: 6/26/2013 4:37:24 PM
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I apologize. Im only trying to help. I think i was very clear that i wasnt speaking definitely by using phrases such as "I think" and "I thought". I didnt say "its a bug". The only reason i replied to him is because i remembered seeing somethingabout the doctors effect on injuries in the forums, but it turned out it was in the suggestion forums, which is why my understanding of the situation was wrong. I respect your opinion however i do not believe when i answered him, i was speaking definitely as you claimed i did. Sorry for the misunderstanding.



No need to apologize to me :-) You are very helpful in these forums, and I know many appreciate your input....In this thread, it read (to me) like you kind of knew something the rest of us don't know....that's all I was cautioning against...because when a guy like you that is so helpful in these forums...with your massive amount of balls, new guys will take those opinions as fact, and run with it. :-)

From: E.B.W.

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Very true i will be more cautious in the future.

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From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 6/26/2013 4:45:55 PM
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with your massive amount of balls, new guys will take those opinions as fact, and run with it. :-)


Absolutely. You'd be surprised at the kind of idiots that can rack up 1300... uh, nothing to see here, move along. ;)

From: Jason

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Date: 6/26/2013 4:50:24 PM
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You'd be surprised at the kind of idiots that can rack up 1300... uh, nothing to see here, move along. ;)


LOL

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Date: 6/26/2013 8:19:36 PM
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Also....I think a better question or discussion to have is why is that Staff members salary increases 2% of every week...but their ability to peform their job stays the same?

If I buy a L4 Dr. and his salary goes from 16k a week, to 46K a week over time, he better be moving up the charts in terms of his reputation in that job. In what situation would an employer keep raising an employees pay, and yet the employees ability to perform the job stays exactly the same? STUPID!


Great point......I think the only times anybody's salary should go up in BB is during the offseason processing. Instead of 2% a week just make it 10% during the offseason. 80K level 7 trainer turns into an 88K level 7 trainer the following year.
I hate the raises every week. Last season I bought a level 7 trainer who's salary was 77K to start, now it will be 107K next week....The worst thing about BB for sure.

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Date: 6/26/2013 8:33:03 PM
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Great point......I think the only times anybody's salary should go up in BB is during the offseason processing. Instead of 2% a week just make it 10% during the offseason. 80K level 7 trainer turns into an 88K level 7 trainer the following year.


I'm not sure what the exact amount should be, but not having it hit every single week is good. I just don't know if pushing them all to the same time would be good for the marketplace (though, of course, the health of the coach market is a whole different discussion altogether).

I'd almost rather see a situation where the salary is frozen for 4 weeks or so, and then it bumps up 5% or so every four weeks after that. Something to not have all the staff on the same update cycle, at least.

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Date: 6/26/2013 9:24:01 PM
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yes have to agree I got a trainer at 11k thousand and in a few season time hes was 37K and had the same exact level.. I had to fire him as matter of fact in my 8 season time here , maybe nine season I have at least 5-6 trainers. I had 1 pr manager for bout 6 season but I fired him to..

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Date: 6/27/2013 1:28:31 AM
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The math on when to change staff isn't too hard, actually. Calculate the savings with a new staff you bid on per week. Then add up the cost of firing your current guy (1 week salary) and the cost of buying the new guy, and divide by the per week savings. Then you know how long it will take for you to end up saving money (payback period).

For instance, your new trainer saves you 5K per week in salary. Your old trainer cost 20K to fire, and you won the bid for 10K. So that's 30/5 = 6.

So after 6 weeks, you are going to be saving money for as long as it takes the new guy to reach the salary of the guy you got rid of. And that's probably at least one season, so you save money for several weeks at least.

I think if you do that math and what you're spending takes more than a season to pay dividends, it's too high. By the end of that season, the weekly raises have pushed a guy beyond his value anyway.

I won't overpay for staff, nor will I let guys stay so long that they are way overpaid for what they do.

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