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- One team lost by 49 points, another team lost by 26 points, and another one lost with CT against TIE. The Tieing team Actually lost by 46 points two weeks ago and 25 points a week ago. Such great competitive matches.

I'm curious if you're talking about Moldova against Hellas, CT vs TIE and we lost by 42 points but our NT is much much weaker and we had no chance anyway

From the POV of a micronation NT, I think I talk on behalf of every small/micronation/early eliminated NT that there should be a tournament for the eliminated teams so they can compete against teams with similar strenght. Otherwise teams like Moldova who are pereniall last place finishers will always get battered and lose every single game in every single tournament with nothing to play but scrimmages in the 2nd part of the season. This way it could add an exciting aspect to the NT game and possibly engage with users who are doubtful of training smaller NT's.

Last edited by sergio at 12/21/2021 6:05:28 PM

The fact that in the EC, there is a small chance every time that even one of the favourites will be eliminated in the 1st round is great, this is interesting, this is fun. For me this is an advantage for Europe compare to Asia, not a flaw. It means top teams can't just blunder games and still expect to continue like that to the 2nd round and so on to the final four, the path is important too, you really can't relax untill u reach the final four and then just try to be clutch in 2 games.

But it's not a small chance. I showed the cases from the last 3 European championships. I actually didn't know how common it is until I checked. I think chances of upsets are a nice part of every game, but I don't think on the current structure the chances are small. I think it's also related to the fact that the ranking system of NTs is somehow broken, and should probably be based on more than 2 seasons.

Most top teams in fact do continue to the 2nd round, if half of them were eliminated then one could argue that something is wrong, but thats not the case.
Increasing the total number of teams that continue to the 2nd will just be boring, it will only favor top teams, there will be zero chance they will be eliminated and they will just play TIE every game to get ready to the 2nd round. I don't want that.
If a certain team is truly a favourite to win the EC, it can't lose twice already in the 1st round. I love this about the EC, you have to be consistent throughout the whole championship, you have to start strong right away.
The Team that wins the EC is always one with a great roster, but it also managed to be consistent through 2 rounds.

2nd round right now in europe is also very challenging in most of the games, look at pool H right now, except Bulgaria, this pool is insanely competitive. This situation that in europe you usually have only one or two weaker teams than the others is much better than Asia for example, where they have at least 2-3 teams that are no competition to others. This is much more fun and interest for europe and as an european, i wouldn't give that up.

Just get a ranking competition for those who were eliminated and its perfect.

Of course that half of the favourites won't get eliminated every year, they are still the strongest teams on the continent. I showed teams that were doing great on the WC and then completely failed on the EC a season after. If you think it makes sense for those things to happen on this magnitude every season, that's ok, but you don't need half of them to get eliminated to call it a phenomenon.

In the second round this season there are 4 teams who have absolutely no chance of reaching the semi finals. The first 3 on group G were practically decided so there are even no WC qualification chances there. On group H, I'm willing to bet that on the semis it'll be two out of Espana, Deutschland and Italy. We know in real life, I'll give you 10 to 1 rate, will take this bet? I guess not, because it's easy to write, but it's also very easy to see that it's not really super competitive.

But your suggestion for the teams that get eliminated is interesting, I have some other ideas for it, will write it later today.

No He was talking about Belgium who has lost by 46 against Lietuva, by 25 against Serbia and won yesterday in TIE vs CT against England.

And about Bulgaria who are the joke of this finals.

But we are very proud to be at the finals at all. It's a great accomplishment for our country. And I do believe it's good thing that the current world champions and one of the best teams in the game, no doubt about that, actually could not make it to the Euro finals. This is the definition of competitiveness imo.

Admittedly, not having read most of the thread thoroughly, I strongly believe that the current Euro finals format is very good and does not need a change. The one thing that should change, as discussed in the other thread, is removing the repechages and substituting them with "playoff" rounds during the semi-finals/final.

Actually, I would like to say something.

- For some reason, Championships don't get as much attention as cup matches or BEI in countries...

- I think we should all seek and find the perfect things that elevate them.

- I think there should be things where we can make the matches known and watched, where most users can participate and vote, just like in BEI. In fact, there is no gift at the end of the job. I hope you understand what I mean..


- The national team section should be a new category in the form of news specific to the matches. There should be someone who can write these matches in the form of an article and we should increase the popularity of MT.

- At the basic stage, if these can be developed so that the ideas can be expanded. (Like group stages and tournament layout)


In a new category, large-scale national team statistics should be presented to the players, I think we should definitely increase the competitive environment.


I hope there will be good developments.

Last edited by SirDexterMorgan at 12/22/2021 10:37:54 AM