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From: WFUnDina

To: Apex
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314820.14 in reply to 314820.12
Date: 5/9/2022 10:33:09 PM
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This is doable in an objective way. Putting market limits removes the BB's subjectivity and the need for a report. Even now many purchases go unreported and BB's have given terribly inconsistent fines over the years.

So then it becomes, 1st come 1st wins?

From: Apex

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314820.15 in reply to 314820.14
Date: 5/9/2022 10:47:31 PM
Atelier
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No because it would reference the starting auction price. Not the bids on top of it.

Either way, the idea being that rules can be created objectively. Fine tuning can always be done to them as more suggestions roll out, but in general this is the correct way to implement market restrictions.

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314820.16 in reply to 314820.1
Date: 5/9/2022 11:43:30 PM
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I guess it is only fair to lower the listing price of fired, and/or abandoned players. Although some of these players are still good, they are not worth their listed price.

From: iuliut

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314820.17 in reply to 314820.11
Date: 5/9/2022 11:51:43 PM
Vulturii Oradeni
II.3
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Vulturii Oradeni II
It's a game. If you're unexperienced then you make mistakes, and place unexperienced bids. It is just like real life.

Market should be more on the free side not on the regulatory side.

Plus "above market rates" is a clumsy description. We all know, for example, players are much more expensive before playoff deadline, or beginning of new season. So it varies also on the moment of the season that you list your player. It's really superficial to say player X got bought for 1k and sold for 100k, it's just not enough information, and certainly not something you can easily and fairly regulate.

Not to mention you can buy a youngster mid season, train him(change his value completely) and sell him beginning of next season for more money. How would you even quantify that?

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314820.18 in reply to 314820.1
Date: 5/10/2022 12:02:36 AM
忽于II
II.3
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For a web/mobile game, this is very counter intuitive towards engagement and user retention. TBH after your lineup has been set there is not much incentive to login the game apart from scouring the transfer market for good deals.

If the intention is to protect new users, restrictions should be placed on the new user to prevent them purchasing players "above market rate" (who determines this?).

I see the transfer market like the stock market, I dont see how experienced investors are punished because new investers lose money because of their lack of experience and market knowledge.

Eg. I bought my 3 "trainees" at the beginning of the season. After 3 weeks I bought a better prospect on the transfer market and decide to sell one of the trainee. The price will now be higher then the original price because of the 3 weeks of training. Looking at the guideline, this seems to fall into the "illegal day-trading" criteria. Is this not allowed anymore?

From: KBC

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314820.20 in reply to 314820.19
Date: 5/10/2022 2:14:20 AM
Kerabnos BC
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Last year i tried to sell a player inside transfer limits.1000000-1500000 for a young draft with the future in front of him. New inexperienced players couldnt give that money, experienced players never dib for my player. Even me who sell this player inside limits i didnt want to bid that amount of money for his skills.
So the free market made me to sell it cheaper and ofcouse player sold :-)
I vote for free market, but not with huge distance from the transfer limits.
Last example i buy old player with 10000 only, i buy a coach with attribute not to lose stats in my players-carreer extension. So if i make expenses why mot selling that player later for 50000?

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314820.21 in reply to 314820.1
Date: 5/10/2022 2:20:00 AM
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Stupid rule IMO. These aren't scams, but very smart financial decisions that give a crafty manager the advantage, utilizing the ingame free market.

"Flippers" as they're called, exist in every MMO (which this game kidna is) with a "grand exchange".
They usually are the richer players, and I see no problem with that.
Figuring out how the market works and finding a way to take advantage of that should be a valid option to gain an advantage in this game.

Last edited by Eran at 5/10/2022 2:20:28 AM

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314820.22 in reply to 314820.1
Date: 5/10/2022 2:33:38 AM
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Not sure this is possible but, if so, (and if it makes sense) a prior warning message that the price (sale)/offer (buy) may be deemed "illegal" (or however you want to call it), within the current market values.

At the same time... how about where there's no market estimation for a player's value?

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314820.23 in reply to 314820.22
Date: 5/10/2022 2:57:57 AM
Johns Creek Wave
III.4
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Holly Springs Haggis
In all fairness, this is a travesty

The only way this is fair is if managers who sell players for less than the market value are similarly compensated

If there is a ceiling to transactions, there must also be a floor. Otherwise you are skewing the market

As in all things, Caveat Emptor is the final word

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314820.24 in reply to 314820.23
Date: 5/10/2022 3:07:33 AM
Acid Bulldogs
II.1
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Second Team:
Gtown Bulldogs
Good idea but we should make it different.
I look at the market very offen and see strange bids on players when similar players are younger and cheaper.
And often its the only bid on the Player.
Then i Look at both Teams. Position in the League, roster, injuries , game shape, schedule.........
And sometimes i See cheating People

So the Problem is more difficilt.
Not the buying and selling prize is important! You have to Look what is on the msrket and what Do the Teams need.
And which Day you have! On sunday a 34 year old 180k Center is maybee worth 1k. On monday He coukd be worth 180k

Last edited by Manager ist ein Bot at 5/10/2022 3:09:17 AM

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