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Fantastic questions Regan.

Feel free to search my post history if people don't believe I've said this... But training is always about sustainability and planning.

Being the previous U21 coach many seasons ago, I would have loved for everyone with a prospect to just pump the skills as high as possible. But the risk with that is the manager ends up with a player they cannot afford and would be left with no choice but to sell the player or bankrupt themselves. That is not sustainable and a stepping stone towards team success. It also leads to attachment, refusing to sell that player even if he, alone, can't get you any further. Thus stalling the team.

I have always put the needs of a team ahead of the needs of the U21 team. I think it is easier for division III teams to train U21 calibre guards and small forwards, but not bigs. Yet it still happens, and as long as those managers are made aware of the options available to them if they wish to take that path, then we have done our bit.

I don't want 150k monster bigs in division III, cause it just doesn't work.

As long as people understand that we are trying to get the best out of their player in line with their team then it will lead to better participation, especially when success follows. If we put the needs of the nation first, we will end up with half baked players who end up overseas and never trained again.

I believe people need to have a plan with training. Know how you're going to train and know when the players are going to peak and become better than the league you're in. By knowing that, you'll know when it's the right time to make a massive push into the next division.

Helping managers train their rookies isn't the end game. It's about managing their team around their future franchise player. Getting them to understand how to train correctly in alignment with their team's success, and not ending up a mid table team for the rest of their Buzzerbeater life.

Rob (Western Titans) and I were just chatting (we work at the same school for those who didn't know) and we spoke of the impact you have had on Australian players. We estimated that if we took all of the players that you had personally trained, together with the Aussie players you helpd managers train to those players whose managers you have given vital training advice for, then there would be 30-40 Aussie players who---when listed---would be some of the best players in BB anywhere. While this in itself is a massive contribution to the Aussie BB community and in particuler, the NT teams, there is also the reinforcement of what you said above. That you appreciate the importance training an NT player has on a mangaer in their respective Division and that training a U21 player has to 'fit' with the team's future. I, personally, received valuable training advice from you on my two U21 players who are now coming into their own. Sure, others contributed (Yoda, Rob, Big Fish etc) but an U21 NT Manager needs to be able to juggle the NT's needs with that of the many individual managers training up talent. Your record in this regard is impressive. It's one thing to talk about 'improving the up and coming Aussie talent' but another thing to have experience doing it and proof that you know how to do it properly and consistently.

Enough said. Time to vote. :-)

Last edited by Mr J at 11/30/2012 3:16:15 AM

Kind words. Thanks :)

I would certainly like to see that list. Sounds a bit generous..

40 is a lot of players.

Few points:

1) 48 new posts oday, whatever happens best election ever.
2) Iwen in your list of ho you want in the election you left off Silo, you nearly lost my vote right there.
3) Mllama +1 for that post.
4) - a million to Koop for censoring all of this before I could read it, I missed the whole flame war.
5) +1 for Coach Regan for the most intelligent post of the day.

Now this is going to sound a bit arrogant but I totally agree with what he said. When I took over India (which was Iwen's idea by the way to prepare me to be a future Aussie NT coach) one of my main jobs in the first two seasons was not training players but training managers. I had to show them how to train properly, how to manage game shape, even how to manage their economy. I also had to make it fun, after all it is a game! Once they were having fun, we were saving players, the team was interesting, and we were winning games it just flowed. Coach Regan is 100% correct. The most important thing here will be to get more Aussie managers involved.

Someone criticised the ABBL for not having any candidates but I must point out that there are a LOT of ABBL managers training Aussie talent for either the U21 team of the senior team. Probably 2/3 of the ABBL actually. I would suggest that is higher than any other league out of the 85 in Australia. Naturally we have the financial resources to do it. But training and playing in the ABBL isn't always so easy but out of the Great 8 Slam ! is the only team without an Aussie they are training or looking after.

Start selling.......

Someone criticised the ABBL for not having any candidates but I must point out that there are a LOT of ABBL managers training Aussie talent for either the U21 team of the senior team. Probably 2/3 of the ABBL actually. I would suggest that is higher than any other league out of the 85 in Australia. Naturally we have the financial resources to do it. But training and playing in the ABBL isn't always so easy but out of the Great 8 Slam ! is the only team without an Aussie they are training or looking after.

ABBLers
Aussie Dude
- None

Awesome
- Sid Costello (21093284)

Bell Park SuperCats
- None

Black Label Society
- Shaun McArthur (12525988)
- Duane Quinton (18085476)
- Gary Howorth (12578135)
- Les Barber (19609712)

Chumunga
- None

Lewisham Wombats
- Hahi bin Awang (9470577)

Monkey Business
- None

Pancakes with Jam and Cream
- Tully Braithwaite (13435335)
- Aakar Jalajamani (14003368)
- Patrick Neal (16765612)

Adam Guns
- Eugenio Dell'Asta (10058043)
- Erotas Zagkas (21093218)
- Svebor Vidas (13436509)

Chelsea Seagulls
- Gary Lawrance (12019302)

Guanzheng Goldfish
- Virgil Wang (18085583)

Koopasaurus
- Tyler Hare (21093248)
- Gabriel Wall (18084302)

Slam
- None

Urmummas
- Sun Cunming (9471882)
- Deion Isaak (14844968)

West Island Tigers
- Leigh Rieffel (19608083)

Whitebeard
- Ismail Lakhin (13435558)
- Lionel Walker (14845673)
- Vladimir Shishaev (18085028)

So that's 22 guys between the 16 ABBL teams. These are just the current NT and NT prospects. I haven't even mentioned the former NT/U21, U21 players, U21 prospects yet. :p

I think tremell should appoint shanmag as chief of sandwich making.

Post of the year!

I also have three other guys who tried out for the U21 team: Barton who missed and Kumar who missed but both would make it this season I suspect. I had hoped for them to make the Aussie NT but in the many seasons since I got them the quality of the team has gone up and up and so only if they had very high sublevels of superstar potential would they have a chance. Barton has capped so he doesn't, Kumar is still unknown. I also picked up Dexter last season who just made the Aussie U21 team briefly.

Barton Melmeth (16765388) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 90 720
Age: 26
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: superstar

Diptavrna Kumar (19609870) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 65 482
Age: 24
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: superstar

Dexter Leadbeater (22817866) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 30 650
Age: 22
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: superstar

I am certainly not short of Aussie PG trainees!

Is there to be no more discussion about our U21 NT and this election? Maybe someone has a few more questions for all of us candidates to answer?

If not, I would like to say this:

I have enjoyed everyones support for our U21 team. It is good to see a lot of people taking an interest. Hopefully we can get even more people involved in some way. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this debate. Win or lose, I plan and hope to be very much involved in our U21 team for the upcoming seasons and will put all my effort into trying to make Australia stronger, have more consistency with our success (that is sure to happen with our proposed changed management strategies) and as a whole continue to make this community one of the best in the world!

Goodluck to all candidates

Edit = spelling error

Last edited by Latino Heat at 11/30/2012 10:14:35 PM

As I have said privately, Mr Alvarez, your election campaign and responses have been excellenet. Good luck. :-)

I have a 21yrs center for U21 and I got 2 18yrs talents for future. Canditates pls give me the training advice for this 3 talents for my team. I will thinking for vote who can advice me :D