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From: vdog
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Date: 11/9/2014 2:38:30 PM
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higher fees = fewer options = less strategy

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Date: 11/9/2014 2:46:47 PM
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higher fees = fewer options = less strategy


= less time viewing the transfer market = less time playing the game = ??

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264414.142 in reply to 264414.141
Date: 11/9/2014 3:34:12 PM
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Rather than up the taxes on selling players I would have instead put a tax on listing players that dont sell.

How many times have we seen a player repeatedly listed at ridiculous prices until some one buys them.

Currently there is nothing stopping a manager from listing players at over the top prices.

I suggest that a 1% "auction fee" be incurred on the asking price of any unsold player.

This would stop the transfer list being full of over the top priced players and perhaps hit the day traders.



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Date: 11/9/2014 6:03:55 PM
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I guess the question here is whether autobids are to be viewed as a tool used as a solution to daytrading or as something simply used to bring more time zone agnosticism (for lack of better term) to the transfer market. It certainly wouldn't have any real utility in preventing the late season team buying, and as long as managers have complete freedom to set the initial bid price for their player swaps, it wouldn't address some of the more egregious daytrading.
Totally agree.

I do recollect that I enjoyed the autobid process in Hattrick immensely, though, because it allowed bids to reach a player's true worth faster, rather than having the price sit very low until a few hours before the transfer closed. If you're selling a player in the hopes of using the money to find a replacement (as one might in a training situation), that may be of some real benefit.
Again, totally agree.

Autobids don't really take away from anybody. If they are easy to implement (and honestly I have no idea) I don't see why they shouldn't be introduced. If they take too much time, it would be nice if it's something the BBs will be looking to introduce when more pressing matters have been settled.

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Date: 11/9/2014 6:11:49 PM
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Rather than up the taxes on selling players I would have instead put a tax on listing players that dont sell.
Here's a great idea that has never been suggested as far as I know.

I suggest that a 1% "auction fee" be incurred on the asking price of any unsold player.
I'd even say charge the (former) 20% to 3% fee no matter if the player is sold or not.

It doesn't solve the day trading problem, but surely discourages charging very high amounts in the hope someone makes a mistake and bids on the players.

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264414.145 in reply to 264414.141
Date: 11/9/2014 6:26:54 PM
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= less time viewing the transfer market = less time playing the game = ??


That's not what i meant at all.

Information is a very important part of this world we live in.

It changes on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis.

Information is going to dictate my goals.

So if information changes so do my goals.(what i want today might not be what i want to tomorrow)

This game has alot of variables (information) to it, and they are always changing.

The more options i have, the easier it is going to be to change my strategy as variables (information) change.


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Date: 11/9/2014 10:43:24 PM
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However,finding and buying bargains...Or buying, training a little and reselling a few weeks later should not be punished but admired.
So it goes.
A problem seeking a solution has met with an over-reaction


I really do think that this extra punishment could be alleviated by simply taxing profits instead of total sale or, as I think you had suggested earlier, simply starting all bids at $1.

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Date: 11/10/2014 12:02:35 AM
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yet you keep repeating to me over and over that you ahve to be online when an auction ends to win it. You really are wrong over and over every day its proven.

When you repeatedly misstate what I said, it begins to appear deliberate. I said you have to be there at the end of the auction to be ASSURED that you can place the final, winning bid. ASSURED. If you are not there, you cannot be ASSURED. BTW, even your assertion that if you bid 9 billion dollars you won't have to be there is wrong, if someone else has 9 billion and 1 dollars.

I know full well how autobid works. It is high time you start addressing autobid on its merits (or lack of same) and drop the personal attacks. You will rapidly find it lacks merit.

EDIT: Try addressing the idea of taxing profit instead of the full sale price of a player on its merits, too. You'll have better luck, especially if you offer a well reasoned analysis and just let it stand, and don't just repeat it over and over and over. Good luck.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 11/10/2014 12:16:42 AM

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