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I love how all the ones who Oppose this crap,...Dissapear when i post,... and the Ones for it come out in earnest,...

Sorry you tackeled your own arguments already in your reply to my 40 out of 40k users thread, so there is no point is repeating what I said before, 1 time is enough.

Just try to not project your own opinion as the majority. I understand you are a little frustated, but hey let's see it the other way around. Think about it in a positive way instead of the negative one. It is how it is now, focus on how to deal with it, instead of kicking against it untill it's gone.

I don't think they will change the staff system within 1 season after introducing it. We know your opinion right know, what's the use of repeating yourself over and over again?

If you got a great suggestion how the staff system should be, open a petition fed or post your story in the suggestions forums (probably the last since you aren't Supporter), that's way more usefull than repeating yourself.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 11/23/2008 5:47:55 PM

did the bb expected to see bids to even raise up to millions getting them?

i dont think the amount was expected to be in this amount

but a lot of factors contribute it to more like example slow training

pretty lame if you ask me

The amount of money bid on any particular staff member has nothing to do with the BB's. It is a free market and the users set the prices. Don't blame he BB's because users are spending too much money.

And, if you don't want to spend moeny or time go get yourself a level 3 or a level 4 trainer.At the time of this post there were 8 level 3 or 4 trainers avaialble, 7 of them with bids of $5000 or less, in the next hour. Two of those had specialties. The one who was more than 5k was a whopping $38000.

Basically, if you are complaining about the system you are either not exploring it or are too stubborn to change your preset notions of how the game should be to best suit YOUR needs.

then pls enlighten me more

my purpose of saying it is just to say what i think, i could be wrong and im open to how to change the perspective,

dont tell me it has nothing to do with it, because once they did it this way there is a possibility but how big it is we cant say.

look everything here whether its new or old ways are susceptible to change now or in the future.

no matter how i think it is, the odds are given to us just like everyday living you encounter things like bad weather, bad week, sudden financial crisis!

so if your creating something positive well then by all means try to change my perception thank you!

U didn't replay on my post ;] (53381.130)

Ah I missed that one indeed.

First of all, I don't think every low league team can afford a lvl 6 or 7 trainer right now. They are signed for millions, I don't think the average low division team has more than a million cash.

The problem is when you don't have an increase every week, and you don't have any skill drops, you can just hire 1 staff member and don't look at it for seasons. The salary will rise 15% max per season and he will be at the same lvl at all time. This would make the staff market (and the staff system) nearly dead.

Reach team spend the same amount of money but in long therm...

Yeah that's quite the point. As I said in my post above, in my opinion this is a long term strategy game. If the amount paid in a season will be the same in both alternatives, then there is no difference to me.


Last edited by BB-Patrick at 11/24/2008 10:16:23 AM

As I said in my post above, in my opinion this is a long term strategy game.

please keep it that way

Well, I'm also one ofe the managers, who do not really like the new system.

First off, it forces me to be online, when a possible new staff member is up and available for bidding, then I have to spend quite some time to get him. I personally like to spend my time better, but if I do, this will be quite costly (turnover of staff increases, because I start out with higher wages).

Second, the system is for me way more expensive, than the old one. Either I spend a lot of money up front, to get a guy, whose salary does not start out at an exorbitant level. Or I get someone with a lower sign-on bonus, but with a high paycheck, that will fast become unbearable.

If I do not want to pay more than with the old system, and only want to change my PR guy once a season, I will have to start out with a salary of about 19000 (will be around 25500 after 16 weeks). Averages out to about 22000 a week, which is (if memory servers correctly) the amount that my Level 5 guy earned before the switch to the new system. And that is not taking into account, the sign-on bonus and the higher severance pay.

Well, try to get one of these 36 guys with a sign-on bonus of under 10000, I think you will be lucky. So, please increase the number of reasonably priced staff.


Last edited by zimiwings at 11/25/2008 1:38:47 AM

I agree with bidding, I also hate bidding and bidding again. I think that could be great to have something like ebay system for a staff transfers (not for players - there I would like to see 5 minutes waiting if rebid:D)

The point is that this system have to suck money from top teams. Thanks to this will have these in lower divisions any chance to get you (or me) soon if your management will not be brilliant. This is a good point.

Imagine that if you want to train players, you need now in highest leaguest only best in your league. To make such a thing you can do 1 phase training, that means high costs for great coach, high costs for his wage and high costs for the player above sensational level...

..these things are for the lower teams unnecessary, so they doesn't have to spend so much money and can get (example) II. division soon anyway. On the other side - if you want a most effective training, you have to use your crap draftees or buy anyone for a millions to have any opportunity to have most effective training, you cannot use now trained players from lower divisions (for the training) thanks to this, that means highest divisions have to think about next steps extremely...

Last edited by Iordanou at 11/25/2008 7:25:06 AM

I have to say i like the new system!

You have predictable future salaries and can therefore roughly calculate the price you should bit to get a new coach. And if you are pleased with a level 4 ataff member you can get them pretty cheap...

I say the new system can be improved. A one time transfer fee that does not go back into the market, unlike a player transfer where it goes to the selling team, is just economic leakage. Unless of course is what the BBs intended all along.

How about getting managers to bid on staff salaries instead? 19k? 22k? 25k?
Much like RL, you decide how much you want to pay him and he'll accept the highest offer.