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I guess JosefKa's solution flew past you as well? ;)

Or not. I find it hardly to be the solution we are looking for here. I get it that it would reduce the income of D1 teams in small countries but on the other hand it has little to no effect on already established teams like Sharman Globetrotters. What is more it would have absolutely no effect D2 and below teams since those revenues are non-existent at the moment. One could argue that implementing this suggesting would not do any harm while solving on of the issues in hand but I would actually disagree with that. For the sake of the argument I am going to use Sharman as an example again. Lets say this team is the product of the imperfect system and by implementing the JosefKa's suggestion we can prevent the growth of a similar monster in lets sat Viet Nam. That is all good and it would most certainly work but is it fear to the Viet Nam team? I would say its not fair since in a community who's goal is growth in numbers and popularity giving equal opportunities is essential for long-term success. And lets face it. Considering how much earlier Superfly started and the daytrading opportunities he had, our friend from Viet Nam has little to no chance of catching up in the next 15seasons. Is making this 15season journey harder for him the biggest issue in BB right now?
One could argue that the example is inadequate and the comparison should be made between the Viet Nam team and lets say a D3 Spanish team. In this case the "catching up" would be done quite faster but then again we are talking about D1 team and D3 team hence my suggestion to cut D1 total revenue. This of course should not be done by simply reducing ticket revenue but rather by changing the way revenue works in general. I like the direction the BB's chose with merchandising by making it a more significant percentage of the total revenue. This could actually work as JosefKa's idea but in a better way. By increasing further the merchandise effect on the revenue based on the quality(salaries) of the players rather then the nationality you have a solution to the small country new D1 team issue. it would also be a welcome change for D2/D3 Spanish teams that face horrific competition and they would be able to take some advantage of their big salaries. Unfortunately non of what I just wrote would ever work. Increasing revenue in any way will cripple the economy. the only way to increase merchandising and keep total revenue constant is b6y cutting further into arena income and I dont see this as ether wanted or possible at the moment considering the top teams just had their arena's reduced.

Just realized my last post is too long to read for most people so let me summarize. I think the system is fine and no major changes are required. If you are a better manager you will advance regardless of your surroundings. Here is a rather appropriate quote from Gerald Helleiner:

"The poor complain; they always do,
But that's just idle chatter.
Our system brings rewards to all,
At least to all who matter."

No, I'd actually want it the way I originally suggested, though the winners tournament wasn't really my main point, I would prefer to see the mini tournaments expand to 512 teams or 1024 (but no more) rather than make more tourneys that Division 5 teams in America would actually have a chance to win something. I just realized that the only reason why I even won my NT was because I'm one of the only active teams left.

In your situation, the champions tournament would end up being teams #1-256 playing each other instead of the best teams in their peer group trying to compete with the best team overall. Clearly the best team would steamroll through the champion's tourney, but there'd be plenty of upsets along the way.

By they way theres another important point with the small countrys. If a small country(one of them, no need to say all time Japan etc etc) alll of his managers are getting really high incomes, my question is: How the BB's pretend that this small community becomes a bigger one?

I mean now maybe we cannot apreciate it but, maybe in lets say 4-5 seasons a Bomerang effect could happen there. The inbalance between the old managers of that country and the new ones, could be such a huge difference that there wont be any way to try to balance it. I dont know, but anyone have thought about that?, About how this small communities will be in 4-5 seasons? Maybe having more users? At the end ist the BB's aim to try to have more users, but i dont see how this kind of little communities can offer a new manager the opportunity to improve season after season, there wont be that way with the actual economic model.


PD: If the bb's doesnt agree with the economic imbalance, we could create a new country: Cayman islands? xDD. Take for sure i would agree to have one team there ¡

I dont think that its really accurate to say that you arent ever competing against them (teams from other countries) unless in B3, because you compete daily on the TL for players and staff.

I could reply to this but Tutori said it perfectly.

No, I'd actually want it the way I originally suggested, though the winners tournament wasn't really my main point, I would prefer to see the mini tournaments expand to 512 teams or 1024 (but no more) rather than make more tourneys that Division 5 teams in America would actually have a chance to win something. I just realized that the only reason why I even won my NT was because I'm one of the only active teams left.

I still don't get it, but at least we agree that there should be international competitions!

Well,
I think that an advantage on the TL means something. If we speak about staff members for example if I have a 18 years old MVP potencial player and a team of a less populated country has another high potencial player. If both of us play in the same division in our countries and he is in a better economical situacion because of the economical inbalance he can hire a level 6 trainer maybe and I will be able to hire only a level 4 trainer.
This affects negatively the spanish sub-21 team that is in clear desadvantages. Or if a spanish sub 21 player is being trained in one of this cointries teams he has an advantages over me to getting his player named for the sub-21 team because of his economical advantage and his possibility of hiring better trainers. And if his player is named an mine no I am losing money.
Since the staff members is the same for all of us the system is punishing some countries teams. Its evident.I really think that we are playing a diferent game depending on the country we play. I am still waiting the premium version that others countries have. maybe someday?


Last edited by algope17 at 1/29/2010 3:02:23 AM

What is the last time that a small country made any noise on the NT's? Never.The interest on my country after hard tries from me and Steve Makis is around 15-20% but from them only 10-12 know what they are doing. They are is around 40 countries with around 100 users or less. That means less than 2500 users. Taking the max interest we are talking for 500 more users that you compete against. Is that 500 users (or 2500 assuming that everyone is active witch is not) really a problem in the market?? we are talking here about the 1% of the game.


So if you are on V division and you want to hire 6lvl trainer then mens that either you want to be a farm team, either they are making bad team planing. Our best NT player barely can get the 16 spot on Spains NT. 80+% of the current NT players have been developed from foreigners. The funny part here is that your U21 is stronger than our NT!!.

I really dont understand why you are complaining.