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136516.141 in reply to 136516.128
Date: 3/26/2010 10:56:11 AM
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I really didn't consider your post a yell... and when i said .. i think you are being a bit too unkind... that was really not meant in an aggressive tone, though i can see how it could be read that way. I think you are generally pretty reasonable, but I thought you were maybe forgetting some of the changes we have made over the last 4 seasons.

I see your point, that you wish you could play a game in which you had to think about the money less, and I could imagine a game in which we made the economics totally flat across the board, had a global salary cap tied to the global level of salaries, no modulation of income with success etc, but I think at this point it would be impossible to make buzzerbeater into that game... and I do think the economic complexity makes the game more dynamic in some good ways. We want there to be an economic incentive to advance, we want to avoid teams avoiding winning their division in order to continue to be successful. We could distill all the tradeoffs into the ones about choosing to build this sort of team versus this sort, and choosing this tactic versus this one, but I personally like the fact that there are too many tradeoffs to make it difficult to write down a globally optimum strategy, and the interplay of an economic system makes it very much unclear whether there even is a global optimum which is independent of the state of the all the rest of the world's strategies.

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136516.142 in reply to 136516.136
Date: 3/26/2010 11:14:00 AM
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I think I have already said that I understand and agree with most of the things you said. I understand your economic plans, so no need to explain it again. I´m not complaining about the salary update. I actually don´t care very much about it, as I always try to adjust my team to the new conditions.
I´m trying to give you some information from the spanish community, very poorly represented in this forum and very lonely with respect to the presence of BBs in our forum (I have read more posts of BB-Charles in some private federations than in the spanish forums).

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136516.143 in reply to 136516.141
Date: 3/26/2010 11:16:46 AM
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I hear you!

I agree with LA-Emilio about the small/big country different economic situation. Appreciating there is an interested BB audience in Macau/Barbados/Jamaica even Japan, it is obvious that teams are playing a very different game when they sign up to those that start their BB career in a Spain/France/Germany.

With a growing userbase and so many contrasting and conflicting opinions of the changes you impose you are likely never going to satisfy everyone. I still maintain that structuring the BB-world into regions and merging countries so that they have as close to equal users and leagues will make future decisions much easier but I do also appreciate that this would make many of the games facets obsolete and lead to even less alternatives to build your team successfully.

Season 12 is almost upon us... time to let the players do the talking on the court...... have a great season everyone!!

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136516.144 in reply to 136516.142
Date: 3/26/2010 11:21:03 AM
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the problem of course is that neither charles nor I speak spanish. We could try to have a google translate dialog...but I think that generally is a bad idea as both sides get misinterpreted.


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Date: 3/26/2010 11:37:02 AM
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I know that, but although people from Spain are not very good in speaking english (things are slowly changing in this sense), we have quite a lot of users that can understand pretty well. We have also LAs that can help. And of course, your effort would be greatly appreciated by our community. Maybe is not the topic of this thread, but the influence of the native english community is very strong in BuzzerBeater compared to other larger communities. As an silly example, most of your contests giving Free-Supporter prizes are actually reserved to english speaking participants, and how big is the spanish speaking community? It is only question of these small details that make people feel part of a global community or feel excluded (including all spanish speaking users from south, central and north America).

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Date: 3/26/2010 11:39:47 AM
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As an silly example, most of your contests giving Free-Supporter prizes are actually reserved to english speaking participants


I don't really think this is the case, but regardless, we have big plans for some contests this spring and summer that will definitely be geared to a more worldwide audience than, say, the NCAA Tournament contest.

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136516.147 in reply to 136516.145
Date: 3/26/2010 11:49:44 AM
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the problem isn't in them speaking english, its that I don't really understand the details of what they are saying in spanish so I can't even write a post which addresses their points in detail.. when i read a google translation of someone's post, it feels like a vague impressionist painting of what they are trying to say.

for instance..

"We like it here and I guess that in Italy and maybe in Lithuania, Portugal, Germany or France. In large countries where sweat each ascent, where no if you want to be up in your league, but keep you from III onwards requires you go about doing birguerías between wages and income and these iluminaos and will skip a season because it is not more than that, this increase amounts to what we would raise salaries this season which starts training, ie put the rise in two years in one. So urgent is change, so will the economy caught BB can not wait a while to wait for it to control yourself?

And of course, goodbye tactical variety. It's fucking attack from within, already well powered external attack (back to the same, at the time complained pointers and four BB boosted the external attack), now simply, you are either I or the interior attack is vetoed . Very good, very entertaining, attacking all out and juagdores clones, the only maintenance that give performance. What a genius ... So yes, the elite of the game, I guess delighted."

I get the vague points here.. something about large countries are more competitive, but then i can't follow what he means in the last few sentences... and then he is making a point that he thinks that outside attack strategies are too dominate.

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136516.148 in reply to 136516.147
Date: 3/26/2010 12:03:42 PM
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Kong Tsun Ting (7976961)
Center
Week Salary: $ 214 274
Age: 22

The last tranfer today : 2.500.000$

¿¿¿this is are you looking for???

Just like HT, we the divine player´s sell for lowerest prices...

greats teams with money in their account win, and the teams with lower capacity for reach money is going down...


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136516.150 in reply to 136516.149
Date: 3/26/2010 12:58:37 PM
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Of course, you can, but the conclusion you will take may be wrong if you don´t do a deeper analysis. And this analysis is not possible without knowing what is really happening in the spanish leagues. This will not come out from the raw numbers.


We have a record of basically every decision a manager makes and how they are playing the game. If we want to analyze something, we have the tools to do it statistically in a far more accurate way than you can anecdotally. And this is really the root of much of our disagreement - you are complaining from anecdotal evidence, while when we investigate, we look at all teams. And yes, we look at teams restricted only to certain groups (including countries, teams of a certain age, etc.) when making our adjustments.

It depends on what kinds of info you are searching/looking at in that moment.
And,as my statistics's professor always said:"we can dimostrate that exists a statistical correlation between the use of oranges in the diet and the numbers of divorces in a year in Usa,but it doesn't mean that exists a logical correlation between these two events."
Many user point out the same situations for most of the time,and you seemed understand that(looking at merchandising and Tv contract changes in the past).But we can assure you that these changes are not enough to rebalance the inequalities in BB global,especially if,continuing to add new countries,you will continue to count it in the global statistics,because the situation of these and other small countries represent outliers in the balance of global expenses/incomes

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