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182276.144 in reply to 182276.142
Date: 5/9/2011 9:39:31 AM
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I disagree with a moratorium on developing the game and I disagree that a game should not consider its users when being developed.

However, I do agree that the developers should not bow to the whims of whiners before making changes. I do not think the developers of this particular game rush into changes, although it might appear that way at times. I honestly think that these guys care a lot about this product- the gameplay aspect, the cosmetics, the accuracy of the simulation, all of it.

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182276.145 in reply to 182276.144
Date: 5/9/2011 6:09:08 PM
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I disagree with a moratorium on developing the game and I disagree that a game should not consider its users when being developed.

That's a grave misrepresentation of my idea, though.

- Moratorium on changes =/= moratorium on development.
- Of course BB should listen to its users. A moratorium on changes would make this process more productive, and would cause users to develop their arguments for the consideration of BBs, instead of repeating claims ad nauseam.

I think you and I agree completely, then, on how changes should be decided upon. We just disagree on the moratorium, which I think would work as a method of ensuring that both the BBs and the managers follow the process of change that both of us support.

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182276.146 in reply to 182276.143
Date: 5/13/2011 12:46:38 PM
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From a game design perspective I think you always design to suit the tastes and interests of the users, to make a fun game.

The game is a lot less fun if you make design changes to respond directly to the complaints of users. The reality is that, when given a forum to petition directly for immediate change, managers will often ask for something which benefits their team immediately, without considering consequences, the actual cause of the problem, etc.

There is work to be done in developing BB, but changes like this season's cannot happen every offseason. The game needs stability and consistency, and change should not be expected immediately, ever. That's one of the objectives of a moratorium - to remove that harmful expectation.

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182276.148 in reply to 182276.147
Date: 5/16/2011 6:14:53 PM
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That's a cynical way to look at things. I assume that all of us want change for the betterment of the game, and my suggestion is a way to allow that change to occur carefully, not hastily.

I've never said that I'm against change. Not sure how you're conjuring that one, personally.

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182276.150 in reply to 182276.1
Date: 7/29/2011 7:12:13 PM
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There was once an American football MMORPG called Goal Line Blitz. It had inherent flaws, but it was still reasonably fun - until managers started complaining about the game every time something went wrong for their team. This allowed them to blame their troubles on the game, instead of taking responsibility and working to succeed within the current game. Admins listened to too many of these complaints and changed the game rapidly, causing new problems every season, and the game is now a ghost town, where even the most dedicated managers only play because they bought too many "flex points" and don't want to waste their money.

I love BB because it's avoided going down this path. However, I've been troubled by some of what I've heard around the BB forums. The salary floor, for example, was implemented as a response to complaints about tanking teams - a noble cause, surely - but it ignored the plight of teams promoting into leagues they can't compete in anyways. The 2-3 zone is said by many managers to be "broken," even though there has been little to no use of the defense with forwards with OD and a center with SB. If 2-3 is changed because of the complaints of managers who are just upset they lost games when they tried playing it with a 4 OD PF, that might be it for me.

Changes should not be reactionary. I think the BBs generally do a great job of this, but seeing that this offseason contained quite a few changes, I think it would be wise to halt any non-cosmetic changes for a calendar year. The strategy of over-tinkering with the game engine, financial system, etc. will only result in another GLB, a dying hulk of something once great, but destroyed from within.


Giving free pops in skills is a cosmetic change or a marketing one.

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Last edited by Marot at 7/29/2011 7:13:46 PM

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182276.151 in reply to 182276.150
Date: 7/29/2011 7:29:59 PM
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Too early to tell if the new change will kill the game. To me it seems like this is something that everyone can adjust to easily.

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182276.152 in reply to 182276.150
Date: 7/29/2011 7:35:14 PM
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Haha, and I do agree that the change was implemented too hastily and without nearly enough warning.

I just think that should be put aside when we debate the actual merits of the change. For example, I think the salary floor is generally a good idea, I just think the BBs did a terrible job in implementing it into the game.

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182276.153 in reply to 182276.152
Date: 7/29/2011 9:34:54 PM
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A whole season is too hastily?

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182276.154 in reply to 182276.153
Date: 7/30/2011 4:43:51 PM
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A whole season is too hastily?


maybe not concrete enough even when the change was the combination of the two common theorys how it will work

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