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From: fewmit
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199844.145 in reply to 199844.144
Date: 11/3/2011 11:00:08 PM
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Question for the candidates:

Rambo has a very nice new thread on the offsite listing season 19 (next worlds) prospects. Without looking at the thread (you're on your honor!) name as many of the players as you can off the top of your head.

Group hug!
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199844.146 in reply to 199844.135
Date: 11/4/2011 12:41:48 AM
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Question for all candidates. Lately, we have seen a lot of the best prospects in the US hit the transfer list because the owner can not afford their salary (Owens, Bland Luther, exc).

Hey mof,

I don't think this is a big problem with U21. Last season, we only had Felder go on sale while on the team, and we did lose him the rest of the season due to GS issues. Just bad luck I guess. Owens and Bland caused financial troubles for their owners because they held them long term. While it's difficult to hold some of the U21 bigs for the U21 season, most teams usually manage for the season. You'll see a lot of guards (Luther for example) get too expensive in the 22 and 23 year old seasons, but it's not a huge concern for U21.

How do you plan on trying to get the best prospects to trust-worthy managers that can handle high salaries?

Not much you can do. Obviously, a transfer ad will be posted on the off-site, so people will be aware of the sale, but that's about it. It's pretty much on the guy that wants him to outbid everyone else. Can't help there.

A lot of people from the top leagues are not looking to train a US prospect

I would disagree with this. It may seem that way, but remember, there's only 80 teams in the NBBA and D.II combined, while there are 256 in D.III and 1024 in D.IV. In the NBBA alone, Coco had B-Rod for the U21 season, Calum is still training Owens, cws has Hurst, jfarb's got Logsdon, Silverbacks trained Dennison, Rambo is training Rex Perez, and made a serious attempt at purchasing Carson. Czobo trained Ugona, Namssor bought an 18 year old prospect last season and started training... I'm sure I forgot some, but you get the idea.




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From: jfarb
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199844.147 in reply to 199844.146
Date: 11/4/2011 1:55:23 AM
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Question for candidates:

By the end of last season we seemed to get away from using "blank" lineups. What are your feelings on blank lineups and how do you plan on using them if at all?


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Date: 11/4/2011 5:47:16 AM
LionPride
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Damn you

Umm

Wade Harder
Ed Sherpard
Rex Perez
Phillip Ojeda
Dane Valenzula
Michael Lavoie
Marcus Miller

Now let me ask you a question. Do Doctors know the name of every single patient admitted in the hospital without looking at their charts?

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From: Coolbobj

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199844.149 in reply to 199844.142
Date: 11/4/2011 6:03:25 AM
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by looking at last years team, i think we have enough talent to win it all. the only problem was the gameplan of the coach. if i'm elected, i will make sure that the gameplan fits the team.

I know that someone else already covered this but this fail needs more than 1 response. How are we gonna elect a U21 coach who doesn't even know we won the championship last season? Epic fail, dude.

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Date: 11/4/2011 6:06:51 AM
LionPride
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It takes balls to run for an election for a team you know absolutely nothing about.

He's got my vote.

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199844.151 in reply to 199844.147
Date: 11/4/2011 7:23:55 AM
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Question for candidates:

By the end of last season we seemed to get away from using "blank" lineups. What are your feelings on blank lineups and how do you plan on using them if at all?




I personally do not like to use blank lineups. I do not plan to use them very much if I use them at all.

From: moflaffle

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Date: 11/4/2011 7:39:32 AM
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Question for panic: What makes you think that you can win an election in the US when you can't even win in Puerto Rico? (Someone had to mention it.....)

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Date: 11/4/2011 7:41:04 AM
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He didn't make the top 5 unfortunately....it's sad when 2 managers without much of a presence at all in the debate thread get in the top 5 over a legitimate candidate. Maybe those two managers have a bunch of....siblings?

From: magiker

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Date: 11/4/2011 9:37:22 AM
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Here's my view on blank lineups:

If a player is significantly better than his backup, we're better off starting him. But if we have similar players, it's better to blank the position and try to get a better minutes distribution. After watching last season, I have a few concerns about a full blank lineup.

1. Towards the end of the season, we noticed that if someone shoots FT's in a full blank lineup, for some reason, the GE would automatically put that guy at PG for the next few minutes. This happened to us where he had Hammond and Hobilla playing some PG in game. This also happened to Poland against Italy, where Italy wen't on a 12-0 run in the last 2 minutes of the 3rd to seal the game, because their C couldn't defend PG. If this problem persists, we can't blank the PG spot going forward.

2. In addition, sometimes I'm not real happy with the way minutes are distributed. The GE didn't really like Goddard all that much last season. I'm not sure why, but if we blanked a few positions, he wouldn't get any minutes. Hobilla saw more minutes at PG than Goddard...

With these concerns, it seemed a little risky to blank a lot at last season's World's. But Americas is different. In the first round of America's at least, I plan on using a full blank and a few partial blanks just to see how the GE chooses players. In theory, blank lineups should work best for U21 teams, since all the players are fairly close in skill level to each other. But if blank and get the same results as last season, then I'd probably be a little less risky and set the lineups for the second round and beyond...

From: Isaiah

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199844.155 in reply to 199844.145
Date: 11/4/2011 9:42:33 AM
Smallfries
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Oh jeeze you got me with that one lol. Im not good with names to be honest. But let me tell you, Ive been looking at those players since last season so Im pretty dang familier with what we have ability wise.

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