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OK I'm a noob but I think I have a pretty good managerial handle on how to run a team and handle financial situation. I agree that it is possible for GM's to rape the market and get more money than they should such as over pricing a player and having a noob buy them or buying many players at low prices and selling them for higher prices but anyone with common sense should be able to avoid being scammed. On players bio pages is shows how much the typical transaction sells for so if your player is typically purchased for 100,000 and you dont put a starting bid price near that and somebody steals him for 10k its your own fault. this is also shown on the page when you are trying to purchase a player, so if a players is worth 10k and you buy him for 100k its also your fault. the game does a good job of preventing people from cheating with the taxes, it isnt the games fault that people are idiots and dont pay attention.
One suggestion that could possibly help would be to limit the number of transactions that a player can make in a certain amount of time. As a new player wit a 300,000 budget one may find it useful to upgrade the crappy team theyve been supplied with but once a team is of decent caliber there is no need to be trading players all the time, other than it can be fun. I find myself completely bored with the game when I dont have a game and cant make transactions. Maybe if the game offered something else to keep GM's active on their days off there would be less day trading. If training were more interactive or something it would give GM's something else to do. Let me know what you think.

I am all for fair play. The problem with selling over TPE is fishing for those new players or idiots. If your player is worth 30k, his tpe is 10000-100000. You put a starting price of 120k on him. Some new player buys him. Not actually knowing what he is doing. He loses 120k, well we can all agree it's a good lesson for him. In a while he will see he overpayd. Now, the problem we have here is the 120k gaining team. If he succeeds he will do it over and over and over again. I have come across a lot of these type of guys in BB. They get an unfair advantage fishing for these type of deals. If the player is worth 30k, the price should be adjusted a bit by GM-s, don't you agree? Perhaps not a fine of 90k is in order but enough to discourage the user to try this kind of fishing again. So with adjusting (fineing) makes this game better, new user get's punished by himself (lesson) and loses 120k instead of 30k, the selling "old dog" get's ~50k for 30k player after a sale of 120k, thus making ok money for the player.

All is fair if an idiot wants to overpay for a player. If you consistently try this tactic, there is a high probability that your player will not sell to begin with and screws up your fan survey. A n00b will learn very quick what players are worth and it is normal for a n00b to make a few mistakes in the transfer markets.

What is more concerning is direct team transfers where the bidding team and selling team is in fact owned by the same person or are friends/family. By simply listing a crap player for sale and having the buying team bid an ridiculously high amount for him, money is transferred between the accounts. Although the lines can be a bit blurred with the fishing scenario, there is usually a good indicator for this. The bidding and selling teams are usually from the same country. Both teams should be fined/banned for doing this.

I think you are too worried. I had a random bid on one of my guys that was way too high. I reported myself and never was fined. I was told that all reports are investigated. So obviously you don't get fined every time there is a silly bid. Don't forget that prices also vary a lot during the season. Impact players are going for a bit right now but trainees are down a bit as they are about to tick over. It all varies.

Only kids (or someone not really familiar with IT) get caught transfering funds between same country teams. They prolly fail at passwords aswell:) I'm not going to write about, how it could be done, or what to look for. I'm sure there are supercareful cheaters out there (yes I am talking about you NT farm teams :D). Depending on the GM tools they have here (I do not know which they use), they can or can not effectivly track them.

You're wrong. The GMs have told me I HAVE TO BE PARANOID AND SELF REPORT or I RISK BEING FINED OR EVEN BANNED.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/5/2010 2:27:29 PM

No I do not agree. If someone pays somewhat over the odds for my player it is not my problem. I should get to keep the money.

I only agree that prices should be adjusted in extreme cases, or where there is obvious cheating going on, such as transactions occurring repeatedly between the same teams/IPs for inflated prices.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/5/2010 2:33:38 PM

...If someone pays somewhat over the odds for my player it is not my problem. I should get to keep the money.

...prices should be adjusted in extreme cases, or where there is obvious cheating going on, such as transactions occurring repeatedly between the same teams/IPs for inflated prices.

That is exactly how it works. If you are not colluding with friends to transfer money around, and you are not trying to bait newbies into bidding 200k on garbage players, you have nothing to worry about.

Regardless of what it may sound like people are saying to you, if you are not doing those two things, I think you should just relax and enjoy playing the game, because no one is going to fine/ban you.

I don't see what's wrong with baiting newbies into bidding $200k on garbage players. If I train certain skills that I know inexperienced players will over pay for and writing ads that convince inexperienced players to over pay on my guys then why should I be punished? That's a skill and doesn't constitute cheating (or at least shouldn't).

You're wrong. The GMs have told me I HAVE TO BE PARANOID AND SELF REPORT or I RISK BEING FINED OR EVEN BANNED.

they express it a bid misleading, but ithey also clear things up a lot of time here.

But self reporting isn't bad, normally it shouldn't affect decisions, but it is a sure sign that this wasn't planned which means less work for gm, which normally leads to a better mood when he really have to regulate the price :)

I'm not saying you can't notice that the market overprices JS or something and decide to start training/selling monoskilled JS'ers to turn a profit on; I was referring more to people who repeatedly take players with no business being sold for even 1k and decide to list them for 200k in the hopes than some new player will make a mistake and waste his money on them.

The point was that of the possible things he could do to get himself in trouble, scamming newbies is probably riskier than just simply buying/selling players over the TPE because you think that is their fair value. In the case of scamming newbies, you know it's not fair value, but you're exploiting the fact new people don't know that. Whether that is something you can actually get in trouble for or not I don't know, but it seems like poor sportsmanship regardless.

Also, not that you were making this point but I've heard other people make it, the idea that tricking newbies into wasting money on way overpriced players is some sort of 'lesson learned' teaching moment is lame too; newbies are going to make plenty of mistakes along the way as it is, I don't think it's good for the game in general to trick people into wasting good money on worthless players when they are just starting out. People who use that excuse are just trying to justify their own fairly mean-spirited attempt to make a quick buck.