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From: Kukoc

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Date: 5/31/2012 11:57:40 AM
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It's seldom about the first pick, it's mostly about making money while playing with a roster below player salary floor.

From: Bballin

To: RSX
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How can you train 18 year old rookie Point Guard at Center and still be competitive in top divisions?


Thats what scrimmages are for.

From: RSX

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Date: 5/31/2012 12:41:34 PM
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You forgot about cup games?

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Date: 5/31/2012 12:56:14 PM
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So what I think is that the key to avoid tanking is to tweak the fan survey and make it more sensitive to losses in a row. It's not reasonable to have your arena full if you have been suffering severe losses game after game. 3 or 4 sweeps should be enough to cut your home attendance by half at least. This could make a huge impact on elite teams that decide to tank deliberately.


Not only this, but have more variation in the fan moods for how the team is performing. It almost appears to be a binary mood right now: "Did we win, or did we lose?" in all categories: last match, last TV match, rival match. But there doesn't seem to be much at all difference between losing a close game and losing by 75. Having more levels for this and having the fans react sensibly to those would definitely help significantly.

From: Bballin

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Date: 5/31/2012 1:07:04 PM
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Thats where you check your priorities. If you'd rather get that OD for a C than guarantee a win in your cup game then do so. If you don't want to lose that cup game than the training really isn't that important to you now is it? Plus you usually get bots for the first week or two or three. What you are complaining about is a game where you cannot have everything. Which is the beauty of the game because people are forced to choose what they want and people are forced to sort their priorities. Why do you want to play an easy game? This is getting offtopic though.

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Date: 5/31/2012 2:13:14 PM
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So what I think is that the key to avoid tanking is to tweak the fan survey and make it more sensitive to losses in a row. It's not reasonable to have your arena full if you have been suffering severe losses game after game. 3 or 4 sweeps should be enough to cut your home attendance by half at least. This could make a huge impact on elite teams that decide to tank deliberately.


I don't agree because it totally depends on the competitiveness of your conference.
What's more there is a balancing phenomenon that i have often observed : when you get everything okay about the rival match, the TV match, etc... you can be sure that the line "scared to lose big players" and/or the line "last season results" will drop. On the contrary, when things are not ok about he results, these lines tend to give a better score.

Last edited by Dunker Joe at 5/31/2012 2:15:05 PM

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From: RSX

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Date: 5/31/2012 2:31:06 PM
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That's my initial post. If you read it, you'll notice I'm not complaining.

And do I want to play an easy game? No. Realistic? Well, an advertisment "realistic basketball game" brought me here.

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Date: 5/31/2012 4:33:57 PM
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Sorry to say, but the phenomenon you describe does not exist.

The balls will vary slightly across weeks simply because they all have a small random component, so recalculating changes them a bit, more often rather than not. This is true even if the underlying factors remain constant, as in the case of "last season results". This variation is typically tiny and I've never seen it exceed 1/2 ball.

What you call "scared to lose big players" depends on how much transfers you've had recently, so it has nothing to do with match results. Last season results, naturally, depend on last season -- and cannot change once the season is complete.


Then too bad I didn't take some screens because I sold no player from 5th of november until 25th of march but 1 awful draftee and I saw this line to change a lot according to my results.
Same thing for the "last season results", after the first update following the first match of this season, , I have already been from 3 to 2.

Whatever, back to the main topic

Last edited by Dunker Joe at 5/31/2012 4:36:03 PM

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