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Date: 1/2/2010 7:47:55 PM
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Yeah he def needs to see big increased in his D and passing to be considered. Single position training is the key to speedy improvements in these areas but it will mean playing him at PG for a full 48 mins each week. You need to weigh up weather that is in the best interests of your team or not but it will help make rapid improvements in your players skills

From: J-Dog
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Date: 1/4/2010 5:39:39 PM
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Hey Everyone,

Update for everyone not on the offsite forum and if your not and Aussie I suggest you get on at www.bb-stats.org/forum - for access to the Australian Forum register then bb mail myself with your username and I will give you access.

Anyways back to the update. We came second in the second chance qualifiers for the Worlds, which means we miss out on the big comp. Chile beat us and then never lost a game from there, which put us second. If I’m not mistaken we go into the runner up's tournament with the likes of Germany. I am happy with how far we got considering our talent pool. The most impressive thing I've seen though is the passion and dedication that has emerged from the Australian community within the last 2 season. A lot of managers are supporting the U21 and National team's which is fantastic. A lot of managers are also looking to train new players to get them into the team, which has produced an influx of very good talent.

Just like to say thanks to everyone that has helped get this team to where we are today.

Also I have been getting a lot of BB mails and unfortunately I seem to read them whilst half asleep and think to myself I'll go and investigate reason for the mail and reply back the next day, but I forget.

If I don't reply to your bb-mail within a certain period of time, please just keep harassing until I do.

Thanks

Cheers

From: Brooksy

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Date: 1/14/2010 2:55:38 AM
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so what are the skill leveld required for the under 21 team and mainly for pg or sg because i cant find it any were for players aged 21 and 20

From: J-Dog

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Date: 1/14/2010 3:40:17 AM
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Hi Brooksy,

If you go onto the offsite forum you can compare your own players to those of the players on the national team to get a fair idea.

Due to the team always turning over players the requirements can change every season. But as a basis I would follow these guides:

PG: Total of 66 over top six skills with emphasis on OD, Passing, Handling.
SG: Total of 66 over top six skills with emphasis on OD, JS, JR, DR and Handling
SF: Both OD and ID total of 20+ then well rounded out.
PF: Well rounded out with total of 44 for the 4 big man skills and 9+ for JS.
C: Total of 50+ for big man skills plus well rounded out.

This is only a guideline and will often change in the future due to the variety of players coming through each draft class.

I also have the auto message thing on for players that fit a salary requirement, but this tool is very limited as it only goes by players salaries and not overall skill levels.

Hope this answers your question and ask more if your still unsure.

Thanks

From: Wezegaga

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Date: 1/14/2010 5:35:14 AM
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Hi Brooksy,

If you go onto the offsite forum you can compare your own players to those of the players on the national team to get a fair idea.

and if you can't ? ;-)

From: J-Dog

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Date: 1/14/2010 5:41:02 AM
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BB mail me like you have been :P

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Date: 1/18/2010 7:33:01 AM
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Hi J dog,

How much harder is it for a player to rank high in national u 21 games versus div 3 ?

Former national player Clifford Fallon (9469815) who is still eligible for u21 national duty, continues to average 11's when played as a small forward which is a lot better than the incumbant small forwards in the under 21 side who only ranked a 9 & 8.5 last game.

Sid

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 1/18/2010 7:35:59 AM

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Date: 1/18/2010 3:47:49 PM
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Hi Sid,

SF is one of the hardest positions to fill. I look for the best all round player, or someone that can help link the defense. I would much rather go into reasons on why I picked the team I did on the offsite forum, to prevent any international scouts spying on us.

There is one thing I can say though is that the level of competition is on a higher level than Australian Div 3 and I believe that may have an affect on ratings especially for the SF who is more well rounded than specialized.

I am quite comfortable with the selected team and unfortunately there are always going to be players left out.

Like I said I would feel more comfortable in getting into more details on the offsite forum than BB forums.

Thanks

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Date: 1/18/2010 4:18:42 PM
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He only played a small amount of minutes in those high ranking games.

Last edited by iwen at 1/18/2010 4:56:42 PM

From: RabidCamel

To: iwen
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Date: 1/18/2010 5:21:27 PM
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That's the key here, I think - he has not had a rating above 7.5 this season when he's played more than 20 minutes. For a full game it's been 6.0-7.5.

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Date: 1/19/2010 2:41:04 AM
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Hi RabidCamel & Iwen

Those 3 games were the only 3 games Fallon played as a small forward.

The other games he played out of his position so that he would get training minutes either as a centre or point guard, so that I could best maximise his training.

If you notice historically over the last 3 seasons when he has played as a Shooting guard (2nd best position), power forward (3rd best position) or as small forward (best position) he has rated a lot better over good minutes

Small forward seems to have been the weakness of the Australian u21 team all season and because of Fallons all over evenness it is his best position.

Speaking of small minutes, Darcy only played 8 minutes for his rating of 9

Admittedly Stamina is not Fallons strongest asset but I'll give him 48 mins as a powerforward (still not his best position) tonight.

I hope you appreciate I'm not going to completely stuff up my training minutes by playing him long minutes as a small forward just to prove a point especially when J-Dog has a closed mind on the issue

Sid

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 1/19/2010 3:00:41 AM

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