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Clowns on the one hand, trying to defend themsleves on the other! You cant make a conversation with more respect??

Apart from his terrible suggestions, GM-Perpete, is right. The rules are clear, sales largely over the market are against the rules. Τhe rule already exists, it might be more enforced now.

But i wrote it before, Transfer List is and should remain free. We dont have to use bad ideas such as "Limiting to 1 allowed sale per season per player"!

What Polish managers do isnt cheating. I dont think there is a manager who dosent want to buy a player whose value is around 400-500 for 200-300 and sell him after some time for 600-700. What they do isnt exactly the same because they target a group and there are many players with the same characteristics. Most of the time a new manager will be the buyer, so i can understand why BBs want to stop it.

What BBs shouldnt do is complicate the game with unessecery rules because the value of a player is objective and subjective at the same time. Market is big part of the game and killing it can make old users leave.

You want a more friendly enviroment for new players and generaly? Write a quide about the potential of the players, their market value and inform them about the sharks of the market if you want. Every new player will make some mistakes, its a learning proccess. You can fine the sharks too.




Last edited by Aimar 21 at 5/12/2022 6:06:17 PM

Υou misunderstand. I was referring to E.B.W. calling polish managers clowns on the one hand and polish managers trying to defend themselves on the other.

0verW1ng said it nicely: "With all the respect to all of you this thread is leading nowhere. You are turning toward insults and accusations instead of discussion". Thats what i wanted to say too.

Again you didnt understand. I didnt label anyone as clown. What i was saying is that calling anyone clown isnt the way to build a respectfull discussion.

The most inept staff member that has ever existed, in his first action, decides to call cheaters to the best managers in the history of the game.

What will be next?

I only gave real example that such kind of investment gives real chances on good profit in the future for buyers (newbies etc. whoever he is). In place where I see chances, you see cheating...because newbies don't train (maybe BB managment should do more to encourage to train? Make it easier and more profitable?) Of course, maybe my players aren't the cheapest on the market currently, but if we talk about difference between 200k to 300k we are closer to real value than when you talk about numbers 30k to 300k. 200k to 300k is that crime you are talking about?

Again, this is irrelevant even though it's nice that you like to compare change in price for steel in 2 years to change in price for BB player in 20 days. Your 50 TSP scrubs don't change into gold when everyone has already bought their trainees and you're selling these with 10x higher price for newbies, even though those players might be valuable in 7-8 seasons if they are trained. And we're not talking about 200k to 300k being "crime" but the 5-50k to 300k-400k what you and some other managers are mostly doing (or trying to do) right now.

By the way: in fact everybody do similar transactions all the time? Even Alonso. Let's check e.g. history of these two players: (41683073), (46424658). 550k more 10 days later, 1M more a month later on one player is ok? But 1M more on 10 players is crime.

I got to love the "what about others" -argument but try to even use good examples. Both of these guys were quality players that were bought for high price and sold for high price. Also based on the actual price that they were sold, both players had multiple bidders when Alonso bought and sold these players. Not one newbie.

Try to notice and understand that when I buy/sell a lot of players, my taxes are much bigger...so it has influence also on transfer of my regular players, which means also minus and additional cost of this investment. Few percentage more on 3-4M transactions is a lot. You don't see and count this. You see only purchase and selling costs and you count revenue basing only on these. It's not properly.

This is also irrelevant for this topic, but love the effort to get some sympathy. The buyer doesn't know and shouldn't care about your taxes when team buys a player and it certainly doesn't have any effect on the market value. If the taxes are an issue for you, stop buying and selling scrubs so you don't have to pay so high taxes from your other transactions.