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Date: 5/10/2010 2:09:18 PM
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wow that is a massive profit. haha yeah I always keep buying players even if I don't need them lol. I sold my shooting guard and 2 backup players and then was planning on buying a shooting guard, but then saw a cool center I wanted so spent all my money on that haha. That left me so many players short lol, and with no shooting guard :P Damn transfer list!
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Date: 5/10/2010 3:26:04 PM
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Prices do change over time. With 13 listings 39 days have passed.
a german national player get listed three times in a row, 2* times for 5,5 Mio and one time for 5 then he get sold for 6,5 after a bidding war. The question is, when 5,5 was overprized what could you sell about 6,5 as a selling price and two teams like to spend that.
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Date: 5/10/2010 3:59:20 PM
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Selling at 6,5mil with 5mil listing would make him forget about that tax anyway:) Join in on the weather talk. I can probably name a gazillion instances where players listing price has been dropped and he get's sold at the dropped price. So you can't actually play that "I saw this happen once"...
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Date: 5/10/2010 4:14:17 PM
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it's only beecause you play that never, and for not only a few player patient is important and not overpriced cheating.
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Date: 5/11/2010 5:12:05 AM
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I think you are totally out of reality at this point. For top players it's quite common situation, it's really not "I saw this happen once".
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Date: 5/11/2010 5:18:17 AM
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Most of the top players will be sold with one bid. Even if they lower the price.
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Date: 5/11/2010 5:31:58 AM
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Why "will be"?
And "most of" can be 51%, so there are still 49% left. And even if it was only 20%, it's for me still quite common.
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Date: 5/11/2010 11:37:11 AM
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Will be = are. Witchever you like. It's below 20%, probably even under 5%.
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Date: 5/11/2010 1:00:37 PM
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and on which facts are your numbers based on?
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Date: 5/11/2010 1:09:03 PM
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Just look at some of the top teams transfers. A lot rounded of sells with some 99.99 etc sells. Thus I came to a conclusion a lot of those top players are sold at their original set price. Ofcourse I can not say how many times has the player been listed, but looking at those evenly numbered sells, I presume that sales that have happened with oddly numbered results are actually the ones that have not had their listing price adjusted. Thus saying that many lowered starting price ends up being a bidwar and sells way above the initial price is unlogical.
Do you have facts to counter my logic?
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Date: 5/11/2010 1:28:01 PM
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Is your data just based on top teams?
If so then you will have to agree the finish of a lot of the auctions is very different to players that sell off for under $3-4million.
A 2% increase on a guy thats $3mil is not normally offputting enough if you have a team on the fence about whether or not they should up their original bid (which would be around $120k different assuming they just got outbid)
Bidding against the big boys is very different.. the timing can be very important. If you choose to sit back and wait for everyone to seemingly finish you risk paying a fortune. So, take an $8mil player... a team bids 8mil forcing any new interested party to bid $8,160,000 then $8,323,200 then $8,489,664 then $8,659,457. If you have 3 teams involved then from your original $8mil if you miss the $8.3mil bid after one of the 2 other bidders goes $8.16mil your next bid to secure your guy would be for almost $500k more. This is why a lot of teams may fire down a rounded marker where they are disciplined enough to walk away from if the action gets too hot. Most managers that are able to spend that sort of money on players have done their homework in advance and thats why these auctions get wrapped up pretty quickly. I would also be inclined to assume that becuase more experienced/richer managers know how to value the top players in the game that the teams selling the best players also know how to price them.
I think you misunderestimate the negotiations that go on via BB-mails... an average run of the mill player doesnt need discussion because you'll have a big number of people interested at most levels until he reaches parity with other similar players that are listed. If you have a unique skillset then its not uncommon to see a player listed for 10/12/15mil and then you can bet that manager might receive an enquiry with a firm offer. If accepted then the player is relisted and then a sale is made. If i want to make an offer on a player i wont say I'll give you $8.453,945 for him (unless i was really desperate to land him and that happened to be the exact balance I had available!)
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