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Irrational decisions – game engine failed to be even close of "real” game development

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102754.15 in reply to 102754.14
Date: 7/26/2009 1:13:56 PM
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I would refer everyone to this article (read the end of the diary in particular), as an example how one should think about things your buzzerbeater players do...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090311&sportCat=nba

if you have as much fun bitching to your friends/readers as bill simmons does complaining about Zach Randolph doing exactly what your center did (note the time, 6 seconds left), than I think you'll enjoy this game a lot more.

We are always open to suggestions and improvements, but perfect robotic basketball is not what we are going for here.. cause that would be boring and lack personality. Why don't you just nickname your center "Zach" and gleefully bitch at him everytime he misses a jump shot that he clearly shouldn't have taken (unless of course it went in, in which case he is brilliant).

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 7/26/2009 1:14:59 PM

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102754.16 in reply to 102754.15
Date: 7/26/2009 1:33:23 PM
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“Launches a 28-foot 3-pointer with a hand in his face. His third air-balled 3 of the night. Actually, it was more than an air ball -- it almost killed the ball boy.” – priceless ! well, as you can c, these things draw attention :) and at the time, beks_ns was making a face that his coach later describes as "A face I have never seen a human being make before." Txs for great post

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102754.17 in reply to 102754.11
Date: 7/26/2009 2:45:32 PM
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What year are you living in? A lot of PF's, C's can shoot the 3 anywhere in europe.
Yes, but if they are pitfull or mediocre, they probably won't fire the last 3 of the game in the nba. Think shaq and ben wallace would fire up that shot? Hell no, if they could not get the ball in other hands with 8 sec. left, they would take a time out or pass it in and the shooter would run around the C, get the ball and fire up a prayer. With 8 sec. left, a poor shooter would not take that shot.

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102754.18 in reply to 102754.17
Date: 7/26/2009 2:59:28 PM
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If he is wide open, panicing a bit with nowhere to pass. He would take the shot in 5% of the time. Perhaps he has a low experience value and high aggressivness value. These things happen from time to time just like in real life. It's not like every shot taken in the last minute while trailing is made by a C. This time it happened, a bit unlucky, get over it!

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Date: 7/26/2009 3:30:36 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090311&sportCat=nba



Priceless!

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102754.21 in reply to 102754.15
Date: 7/26/2009 11:50:39 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090311&sportCat=nba


My interest in Basketball has increased infinitely... that is such a great read and makes me want to watch the re-run of the game... (and understand some of the play terms)

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102754.22 in reply to 102754.15
Date: 8/3/2009 10:12:16 AM
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if you have as much fun bitching to your friends/readers as bill simmons does complaining about Zach Randolph doing exactly what your center did (note the time, 6 seconds left), than I think you'll enjoy this game a lot more.

yet, wrong decisions in the last minute are way too common.

This is what happened to me on saturday:
- Score: Smelly Cats 76 - Vavar Rivers 79
0:24 Full timeout called by Smelly Cats.
0:20 Tomala is forced to take a very long three pointer, guarded closely by Meiller. (no need to comment... and it was right after a timeout)
0:20 Shot missed.

and again, still on 76-79
0:18 Full timeout called by Smelly Cats.
0:08 Pass stolen by Scrofolo.
0:00 Pass stolen by Mezzalira. (Why no fouls? Were they happy with losing by 3 points?).
0:00 End of the game.

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102754.23 in reply to 102754.22
Date: 8/3/2009 10:15:17 AM
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The fact that you _want_ to do something doesn't mean that you'll be able to do it all the time. Of course, this being a text play-by-play, that's not possible to see.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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102754.24 in reply to 102754.23
Date: 8/6/2009 10:27:57 AM
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I would just like to offer a possibilty from real life. With 8 seconds left, the coach told his team to take a quick shot so that, if missed, they could fight for an offensive rebound. On the inbounds play, the center was left unguarded so he slid out past the 3-point line, got the ball, and let it fly. This is a common tactic in basketball- shoot and crash the boards so if the shot is missed you have another chance rather than hearing the buzzer.

I agree that the GE does not always pick the "perfect" option. I have never been involved in a basketball game where the "perfect" option was chosen every time. Has your team ever called a timeout with a few seconds left in a 1-point game only to find they had no timeouts left? Not that crazy? Check NCAA final game when Chris Webber was a freshman at Michigan.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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102754.25 in reply to 102754.24
Date: 8/12/2009 10:25:30 AM
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I've watched almost every one of my team's game this season (except scrimmages) and I only remember one game where my team played really stupidly in the last seconds. Your game (OP) was a statistical blip.

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