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154705.15 in reply to 154705.14
Date: 8/23/2010 7:44:46 PM
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Hello,
Maybe we could do it another way, that i think would be more interesting, and will add some more fair trades.

Whenever we put a player up for sale, the seller should have a minimum and maximum possible price, so that the player would get listed in a "fair" range of selling price.
If we want to sell him fast, then we can ask his minimum sale price, but if we want a better price for him, then we should get a limitation on the maximum price we can ask for him.
These minimum and maximum price limits, should be directly related with player´s wages and skills for his position.

Another possibility we should add, is the automatic player transferlisting, where the seller can define a "fair" price at which we would be open to sell that player.
When someone placed a bid on this player, then we would be automatically put in the transferlist, where others could outbid the inicial buyer, or if not we would get the player for the defined price.

Even when, a team faces the possibility of going bankrupt, the players should always get transferlisted for their minimum price, and not the all team being sold for 1$, because then that team would get a better chance of bouncing back.

Another change that should be implement, is the impossibility to bid on your own player in order to bump up his price.

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154705.16 in reply to 154705.15
Date: 8/24/2010 2:24:30 AM
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Whenever we put a player up for sale, the seller should have a minimum and maximum possible price, so that the player would get listed in a "fair" range of selling price.

If we want to sell him fast, then we can ask his minimum sale price, but if we want a better price for him, then we should get a limitation on the maximum price we can ask for him.
These minimum and maximum price limits, should be directly related with player´s wages and skills for his position.


should be close to be impossible, less then 50% of my roster have a TPE and from the other 50% the TPE is far away from the real value. maybe this is more extrem with top notch players, but this system could only work if you had good estimations for every player or you had to use very wide difference betwen minimum and maximum price which makes it useless.

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154705.17 in reply to 154705.16
Date: 9/18/2010 7:16:27 AM
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It would be nice to see some stats that show hom many of the transfer listed players are sold anyway. I am looking for a guard right now and it seems that less than 10% will be sold, the other 90% are listed at unaffordable prices, way over their market value.

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154705.18 in reply to 154705.17
Date: 9/18/2010 8:24:36 AM
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You're not the first to suggest something needs to be done about this but the BBs are yet to do anything about it.

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154705.19 in reply to 154705.17
Date: 9/18/2010 11:54:53 AM
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I completely disagree, I look for players all the time and I find that the majority of players have bids on them.
Could you share what skills you are looking for on the guard? Or give examples of guards that are listed wayyyyy above their market value.

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154705.20 in reply to 154705.19
Date: 9/18/2010 12:22:56 PM
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I completely disagree, I look for players all the time and I find that the majority of players have bids on them.
Could you share what skills you are looking for on the guard? Or give examples of guards that are listed wayyyyy above their market value.


Try this:

Jumpshot: 9
Passing: 8
Age max: 23
salary min: 20.000

Thats more or less the player I am looking for, I estimate that 1 out of 15 has a bid, the others are listed at prices nobody wants to pay... Also the filter I use is not very specific...

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154705.21 in reply to 154705.20
Date: 9/18/2010 12:33:36 PM
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The first 10 players that came up were exceptional players though. Very young, very good potential and very good skills.

Players like this:
Weekly salary: $ 57 561
Age: 22
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: marvelous Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: prolific
Driving: tremendous Passing: strong
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: awful

Weekly salary: $ 47 368
Age: 22
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: prolific
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: sensational
Driving: prolific Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: awful

Experience: awful


Weekly salary: $ 54 878
Age: 23
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: wondrous Handling: sensational
Driving: wondrous Passing: proficient
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: strong

Experience: inept

Weekly salary: $ 66 237
Age: 23
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: marvelous Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: wondrous
Driving: marvelous Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: mediocre


Those are very good players, and you have to expect to pay a lot for them.
I think part of the reason many of them don't have bids is because they are not eligible for playoffs, and everyone is waiting on the draft before picking up young players. And some of them do have bids.
Some of them are overpriced, but bbmail the owner an offer and he might relist it at that price.

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154705.22 in reply to 154705.21
Date: 9/18/2010 12:46:08 PM
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Those are very good players, and you have to expect to pay a lot for them.
I think part of the reason many of them don't have bids is because they are not eligible for playoffs, and everyone is waiting on the draft before picking up young players. And some of them do have bids.
Some of them are overpriced, but bbmail the owner an offer and he might relist it at that price.


The majority wont get sold - and thats the problem I adressed. I dont want to see a market flooded with players that aren't for sale technically becaus the owner can expect not to get a player sold for the price he asks. Thats not how auction markets are intended to work!

The only players that get sold for realistic prices seem to be the free agents...

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154705.23 in reply to 154705.22
Date: 9/18/2010 1:08:52 PM
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The only thing that will change is that these players will simply not be listed anymore, because no one in their right mind is going to sell one of those players for under 2 million dollars. Having those players up for sale at a higher price isn't hurting anyone, and if I had the money, I would definitely consider buying one of those players, so the problem isn't that they are overpriced, the problem is I don't have enough money to buy the player.

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154705.24 in reply to 154705.23
Date: 9/18/2010 1:15:11 PM
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Having those players up for sale at a higher price isn't hurting anyone


Of course it does not hurt, but it is a huge annoyance to search the market with so many players out there that in reality are not up for sale - if you search a specific player and get 100 results you can assume that maybe 20-25 of those players are your "real" results and the rest is just overpriced spam/junk/whatever.

Maybe it would solve the problem for me if you could filter to show only players that already have a bid placed on them.


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154705.25 in reply to 154705.24
Date: 9/18/2010 1:21:11 PM
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Why don't you just set the filter so that any player over a certain price is excluded. So if you set it to 3 million or whatever your budget is, it will avoid all these players.

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