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Okay well maybe it is because he has low gameshape.
If you look at his team, you will notice he gets over 30 assists a game.
Perhaps he just has 1 or 2 dominant scorers and the rest of them pass the ball to these guys and so the reason the assists aren't high per person is because they are spread out over the team.

Passing is a skill that is not so esay to train, probably simply cause if you train passing you don't train any other primary skill, even in decimal - ok, driving and handling, but they are not as appealing as JS or OD.

Probably, people just look elsewhere. Anyway, I'm going to raise my outer player passing level by 2 in the next season :-)

Its litle bit complicated to understand how passing works on the GE, plus its normal you see that outisde teams normally their average of assist is lower compared to inside teams. Or for example there are inside teams that when his C-PF makes a dunk and is assisted is more like because their C-PF has a great IS than because they received a good pass.

An outside player with a great JS, but speacially with a great driving can create by their own a shot attempt without the need of a good passing and finally scoring it and this happens a lot of times during a match of an outside team.

Also its really complicated to calculate the level of passing of a PG or in general of a team, because for example there can be teams with bad offensive flow but that if they play against a team that has bad defenses they make 20-30 assist.

In general when you play against teams with offensive flow of 4 or so calculate his PG is not more than 7-9 calculating also the SG and in lower participation the SF.

If its over 5, calculate his PG has around 10-11 or so with SG around 8.

And so on...

To have a great offensive flow if you have a PG with passing 9-11-12, a SG 6-8 and SF 6-8 you can be happy with your team. In top teams that can be with PG around 12-15, SG 10-12 and SF depending on manager.


In general managers train passing but its more difficult they wanna sell his PG that had to spend lot of seasons to train him.

Last edited by Marot at 8/29/2010 9:10:58 PM

In my expierence most teams don't have great passing and offensive flow so their team doesn't get many assists.

A few more reasons

-really good teams have high passing on their SG, SF, etc. These players will in essence "steal" assists from the PG.
-A PG with shooting equal to passing will probably shoot as often as he passes, taking away some assists. And if the players around him are really bad, he could even take the lion's share of the shots.
-People have over-developed outside d and under-developed passing. The general BB philosophy (as I have heard it) is to train outside d first, everything else later. Since outside d is what stops assists, is it any wonder that they are (a bit) lower than expected?

By the way, things used to be worse than this. I really like the way the engine works now in terms of passing, I do not think we need an assists tweak again.

personally i have more the feeling that "assist" counted the european way here, which makes it hard to get double figures in this category. It isn't a unimportant skill, and in my eyes it was also important with the od GE but you need to make finishing passes to get an assist, and not just be the last guy who pass to a scoring player like in the NBA(ok maybe that is a bit drastic, but in europe the standard for a assist is higher).

PS: About rebounding, the low shooting percentage and that the players the ball isn't flying out of the court throw rebound situtions+ no team rebounds etc.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/30/2010 5:08:26 AM

a good PG goes a long way.

You won't see me disagree on that point.

-really good teams have high passing on their SG, SF, etc. These players will in essence "steal" assists from the PG.

To amplify Paper's point I use two PG's as starters both with well over 10 passing (I wont give the exact # for NT reasons). Both of them steal Assists from each other as well as my bigmen who have high passing.

Another factor is that every rebound shows up on the boxscore and Matchviewer, however not every pass does. A pass needs to be above a certain quality, X, in order to be counted as an assist. A few seasons ago the BB's lowered X so that more assists we're being shown even though more assists weren't necessarily being made. This makes it hard to judge the exact output of a players Passing.

A few seasons ago the BB's lowered X so that more assists we're being shown even though more assists weren't necessarily being made.

I am not sure that does the modification justice. As far as I know, what they did was to actually increase the effectiveness of passing. I am not sure if I interpret that as a "lowering of X".