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189084.15 in reply to 189084.14
Date: 7/9/2011 8:14:12 PM
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:)
we are talking about C playing SF with at least IS17, REB13,OD7
the SF u mention need ID14, REB10, JR10, which is costly and uncommon, and still under major disadvantage

rng is the very wrong way to do it, because
1. pace increase will open up ur def, for opponent early post up
2. pace increase > ur team will not concentrate on attacking with ur SF
3. pace increase > more possessions > more reb > advantage goes to the team with more big guys
4. more possessions > more chance for ur SF to foul out

PS. ur opponent doesn't necessary have low stamina :)

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189084.16 in reply to 189084.15
Date: 7/11/2011 3:25:31 PM
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well look at my team i dont super man as the sf. He is the league leading scorer my sg is better. I know im in lower league and things are much different inthe upper brackets. But I hve yet to lose to inside shooting when do this tatic..

This is just from my experience. I was saying dont try to play defense try to out shoot them and foul them out .

3. that not 100% true. if your guys are making the shots then it less possesion for the other team. If your sf a solid reb and he can shoot he long ball like mines can it may work for you. You don't thave stop every big man but you can foul them out swhich is the point i was trying to make. Most big mean dont have the stamina to keep up in a fast pace game, also with your sg and sf with good rebounding. it harder for the othjer team to get rebs and that more chance of them fouling out or getting tired inthe game.

I understand my advice is nothe golden ticket to success but its working for me. I just thought id lend some advice from my exp vs the tatic.
Thanks for the replie

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189084.17 in reply to 189084.16
Date: 7/11/2011 7:08:28 PM
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I am personally a fan of 2:3, for 2:3 its important that your Pf+Sf can defend outside too, cause if they cant you might be destroyed with 3´s.
In the offense I use patient. You need a balanced Sf, good os-shooting+id, or a Pf with good Jr and Js. Then his C playing at Sf won´t have a chance to defend against his os.

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189084.18 in reply to 189084.11
Date: 7/12/2011 6:50:55 AM
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Would anyone have a general opinion on using the box defenses (inside & outside) against a LI offense?




From: strilfe

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189084.19 in reply to 189084.18
Date: 7/12/2011 11:27:33 AM
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I had played an isolation inside defense against am outside offense (ouch) and was destroyed, but I outrebounded the game, so I won. jeje
You should play isoaltion if the other tean has one player that excels at scoring, so your focus wil be on stopping the main threat of your opponent. If the other team has many scoring options or has a balanced offense, is a bit risky.

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189084.20 in reply to 189084.1
Date: 7/12/2011 6:58:40 PM
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What did you expect? His Inside scoring was ridiculously higher than your inside D. If you want to stop it, get better inside D.

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189084.21 in reply to 189084.11
Date: 7/12/2011 7:08:44 PM
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3-2 zone is absolutely awful against any competent LI player. He's a top league player so 3-2 isn't a good option at all. He'd take a full drop in rebounding and a drop in one one one defense.

3-2 zone against LI only works in lie D4 when dudes have basic starter kit point guards that can't pass or handle the ball.

Otherwise, even the few times you are able to stop the ball from going into the post, a shot goes up and they get a tip in on an offensive rebound.

Also. To the OP. Why are your SF and SG the same ID. SF's ID means much more to the game engine than a shooting guard. If you want to be effective, try prolific or higher at the SF spot for ID.

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189084.22 in reply to 189084.21
Date: 7/12/2011 9:07:18 PM
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I just won a game playing 3-2 zone against an inside attack. I know it's not common, but it was a PO match with a tough rival. And I played normal enth...
OD is a big key in bb, always.

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189084.23 in reply to 189084.22
Date: 7/12/2011 9:12:22 PM
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You won because your team was much better than his. It's not like you shut him down. He scored almost 100 points and you needed a big 4th quarter rally to win.

You won because your offense was much better than his offense. It also helped that your rebounding was better than his even with the zone.

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189084.24 in reply to 189084.23
Date: 7/12/2011 9:58:38 PM
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i lost my game, but have fun with it
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/33215691/boxscore.aspx


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189084.25 in reply to 189084.1
Date: 7/13/2011 4:52:02 AM
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Generally you need better defenders. Not just only at SF where your need is greater. "Only" strong/proficient against a pure PF or C(prob Marvelous-Phenomenal IS) wont cut it. And if he is foul prone, you´re in deep sh*t defensivly. Even with a 2-3 zone he will be slaughtered.

Better defense on your guards also helps a bit, defending against the pass inside. If your ID does a good job the opponents is forced to shoot outside shots (2p and 3p) and good OD helps to stop them from scoring outside.
If they shoot 15-20 threes on your ass, it´s because your ID is working =)

On the other side, your offense also contributes indirectly to your defence.
If you have a great outside shooter in your SF, and runs Patient your team will get him the ball (if you have sufficient passing and flow) and he will drive past the hopefully not-so-good-OD SF who is actually a PF/C playing SF.

If you run a faster offense, rebounding will be more important. A 2-3 zone would help here.

You´re up against a couple of really good team and I find that your defense is good, but offense is a little bit left behind.
The FG% is to low for your PG/SG/SF (in these games anyway), not even hitting 90p/100 and as low as in the 30´s.

Don´t beat yourself down, with a little more luck you could have won a game or two...

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