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All quoting are from CrazyEye. I set it to "Everybody" as it has an answer also for Nickleon;

you could register for an election, and still voting for other with a reason(maybe to get one of the random votes, or beeing the backup candidate)

What???? Why a candidate will set himself as a candidate and vote for another?
It never happens at any world.

And still, having a coach is better than not having one...
It is not that currently a foreign user cannot put himself as candidate for an NT position.

there is normally not a lack of candidates, at least till now

And it still can happen. And the likelihood is getting lower when the possibility for more users setting themselves as candidates is being pushed up.

Some will prefer having locals, while others will prefer having a more experienced one.
Another option is setting a minimum experience limitation to all of the points I've brought at the head of this thread.

there are user in theire 5th season, who know few about the absic of the games and there are new users who learn fast and put effort in it and a quite good after a month(and people who played in the past). An border that you need to play at least X season, won't help.

And here Nickleon you have another example of someone who doesn't like having a limit upon experience. Thank you CrazyEye for your assistance here. :+)
Anyhow, for your (CrazyEye) claim here, it is an option.
As said, some would find it a good limitation (like Nickleon), and some wouldn't.
I think that this limitation (point (5) on my header message) is a good one, and it is more likely that an old user will have more experience and will be better.
In any case, there is a very low chance that someone will vote for a new user.

And again, that point is debatable, and can be separated from all the other points (mini-suggestion) on the header message.

As said, some would find it a good limitation (like Nickleon), and some wouldn't.

I didn't said something about limitation!You did!
I said that i'm against in tie NT election to give the NT place to a user only because he is candidate on his own country!And i put on the discussion the experience matter!
And also said that i like more the current system where the older user wins in a tie election!

So what is the following argument you wrote at the 7th message on this thread???

I don't thing so that someone want a 10 days player as his NT!Such a player don't know the basics for the game!

You can recognize it as yours upon the exclamation mark at the end of it :D

And what exactly is the line on current message:

i like more ... where the older user wins in a tie election!

This exactly means that you prefer having a more experience user as an NT coach. Exactly what CrazyEye argue against. [With the claim that the older user may be the worse player between the (two) candidates.

What???? Why a candidate will set himself as a candidate and vote for another?
It never happens at any world.

Where did you get this fact? I have been a candidate myself and voted another person. This can and does happen for various strategic reasons, etc.

I think the biggest problem with the NT-voting are connected to the small countries where it is pretty easy to cheat yourself into the position. If only one vote is needed to get the job it is quite tempting to manipulate the voting.

I dont know if it is possible to change the system, but I would like to see a multi-part election:

1. candidates MUST write a speech and present a concept
2. only managers that did that are allowed to become candidates (some kind of GM approval needed)

The county I ran for NT coach this year has now a coach that has never posted a speech (1 vote, presumably selfvote won the whole thing). Two other candidates got one vote each (one speech), possible multiaccounting involved...

Whole election looks pretty shady...

I lost in Domican Republic against a user with 46 days experience and a whopping single vote, too. I guess it´s the normal way of the things to some degree - if the community isnt interested in "help" from a gamepoint view, there is no response to offering it. I doubt that´s a problem though. If there is no interest in voting, they don´t care a whole lot, so who´s losing anything? An NT coach in the end is "for the sake of the nation" he´s working for, isnt he?

I think the biggest misconception here is that the (local) community is the main factor for the NTs.

In fact, from my point of view in smaller countries the managers that own the NT players are among those who have the highest interest in the national team of their players. They should get involved to a certain degree too (very very difficult, I know).

I hope everybody understands what I am trying to say.