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Well said, and it is something I wanted to address. I believe I've had more experience with previous U21 teams both training up a player (18085336), discussing tactics and being a mentor in the mentor program. Not to discredit Tremell who I know is a great manager and very experienced, I just feel that I would put the U21 team in the best possible spot for the present and the future.

I'm confident Tremell would put all the necessary effort to run the team. I understand he could just be lazy writing up speeches when he doesn't even know wether he'll be elected.

He's a great manager and has been very active on the 2.2 forums over the last seasons. I also enjoyed some long bb-mail discussions with him.

He knows how to chose the right tactics, has got some experience and is open-minded.

With all the due respect to Leeroy, I'm going for Tremell once again.

You've got my vote mate, i wouldn't worry to much about being up against managers of higher ranked teams. I'm sure most people who take the time to vote know that having a decent team doesn't mean a decent manager, and being a decent manager of your personal team doesn't equate to a decent National Team manager either.

You've been supporting and helping out with the National Teams for long enough to know how its done as well as anyone and I'm sure most people would be able to trust you much more with the reigns then anyone else who runs that has showed no interest in the team up until now.

With due respect to tremell who as I said earlier is a great manager and ezlife's opinion, as ezlife is also a great manager I just want to point out that the gap isn't so great. Leeroy is also a great manager and if he wasn't in III.6 he would have promoted seasons ago. Got to go, I'll talk more about his qualities later.

Tremell has rarely shown an interest in the national teams in the past.

Why should we pass the reigns to him now?

He was not involved in the U21 setup for the 4 seasons I ran the team.

A question to the candidates-

During my time in the game, an additional role of the u21 manager and their staff has been in the development of players, primarily for the u21 team, but i some cases towards the national team. As such, scouting and tracking of players from the age of 18 has become a major part of the job, as well as need for longer term planning.

What do the candidates see (or foresee) as being the areas of strength and weakness for the next couple of seasons, and what would you like to see maintained or implimented to as part of future player development?

Last edited by robhoe at 5/16/2012 7:42:19 PM

Good luck to all running. I'll wait to decide who to vote for until I see what Tremell has to say, though I think both Leeroy and Tremell would be good managers.

I have one quick question. The U21 team has made slow but steady improvement since probably season 8, culminating in reaching the world cup last season. However, we are yet to win an asian championship, or make any sort of real impact in the world cup.

What will you do differently to build on the work of previous managers, and put us into the position where we can challenge for asian titles, and go further in the world cup?

Since I began this game some time ago I've always been of the opinion that training young players is the best strategy. I mean, the game is practically built around people drafting young guns, training them, selling them and progressing through the ranks. Unlike the National team who can have the same player for anywhere from 1-6 seasons, the U21 team essentially has a new squad every year which means the development of 18 year olds are paramount in the success of our future runs at the championship. Now while these differences may have its pros and cons, I believe that the actions of the U21 scouting and development can also affect how the NT team will turn out in the future. I plan to work alongside Sam aka Whitebeard, giving managers who have developed a previous U21 player more guidance in how they can continue to train there players in making it to the next representative level.

As for the near future meaning the next couple of seasons, I plan on getting a bearing of the new crop. It's going to be quite difficult without the NT scouting function being available to us, so it may be more than likely that I'll miss a few 18 year olds particularly in Division IV so I'll be sending out a NT advertisement to any player over P-Allstar and get them to contact me directly in case I've missed them in my earlier scouts. During Iwens reign we've seen the team grow due to the mass scouting he performed so that definitely tells us something about the methods needed to keep the team in the right direction. In season 18 we came really close to victory in the continental finals against Philippines U21 coming to within 4 points even after an early injury to our starting SF. Now if anyone remembers being there for the game, the situation was quite grim with most of us cursing our backup SF Dokurno who ended up on 2 - 19 and the Philippines rejoicing that he was getting nearly every shot! While this was a bit of disappointment, It was really good to see so many people involved and watching those young Aussies go balls to the wall and leaving it all out on the floor. I personally would like to see more involvement in the U21 side as far as other managers watching games and giving their input, after all it is the representative team and they have just as much claim to it as anyone else. Maybe going around and posting in some Division forums about upcoming games will have an effect on the popularity of the U21 in future seasons? There's only one way to find out.

Regards,
Leeroy

I was there with you Iwen and others watching that game and seriously, without that injury we would have been Asian champions easily. But that is how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I am back from my bike ride and the swimming pool (it is a beautiful day for a ride here in Melbourne today by the way) and I said I would give the reasons why I think Leeroy is as strong as tremell as a candidate. Ok his team hasn't achieved as much but the big difference is tremell managed to get out of the dreaded III.6 early and then tanked for many seasons at the bottom of II.2 while he saved a mega fortune. Leeroy was stuck in the bottleneck and has wisely just trained and saved while he awaits his opportunity (which may be this season).

He has trained a lot of players including one that made the U21 team so he knows training. He was involved in the mentoring program under mllama and learnt a lot there and I would say was one of the top four mentors. Then under the reign of Iwen he was Darth Vader to Iwen's Emperor learning the ropes (and whips and chains). He was a constant participant in tactical discussions and one of the best contributors to the offsite forums.

So while I think tremell is a teriffic manager and a great human being, so is Leeroy, the ABBL vs III.6 tags do not tell the full story. I wish I could vote for both of them.

Hey guys

Thanks for some of the kind words written in previous posts. I just want to say my nomination was more due to noone nominating straight away so i just wanted to make sure their was an experienced manager at the very least it could go to...

I fully endorse Leeroy and particularly the words yoda said in regards to him being a great manager despite being in div3. I have always admired his dedication and participation in the Fishbowl PL so if i was to ever have a list of managers i would like to see in the job he would make it. I dont see being in a lower division as a handicap or a indication of Leeroys talents, anyone can get caught in a hard division and the success of a good manager is the ability to listen and 'graft' ideas from other managers to make the best possible plan going forward and Leeroy has clearly shown he wants to learn, assist and contribute to the community without fail.

In the future i very much have ambitions of going for a post like this as like yoda and ez and a few others have said i try and play the game with diligence and respect whilst also improving and making gains. My downfall is very much not being strongly enough involved in the NT community so i have a proposition of sorts for Leeroy coming....

I like the fact Leeroy plans to consult with previous manager Whitebeard with direction whilst in the role and if possible i would very much like to offer my assistance to Leeroy as another experience manager if he is willing to accept it? There is a lot Leeroy can offer to my NT coach development aspirations for the future (as far as ideas on scouting etc in a national team setup that i lack where he is very proficient) and at the same time i can offer him my advise and opinions tactically and strategically? What do you think Leeroy?

Hope this clears up some things for the buza community as to my initial nomination :-)

I like the fact Leeroy plans to consult with previous manager Whitebeard with direction whilst in the role and if possible i would very much like to offer my assistance to Leeroy as another experience manager if he is willing to accept it

Of course, I respect your input and experience as it is mate. You were the one who invited me to the PL anyways
Provided I get the position I will try to get as many people involved as possible, as I said in my previous post the Australian community has a right to input as it is their representative team