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Last edited by jonte at 6/4/2014 9:20:39 AM

You're like some kind of a statistics god, I find your posts really interesting to read. Keep up the good work!

it very easy to get a team of good guards. The kicker there is restriction on caps in value. I dislike that, if training is the way why should it matter how we spend our money.NO one should be cut from the same shame cloth , it creates boredom

Having extreme od will not "will" win all the time .You will need extreme scorers too. PA and rebound is the kicker in that, I see that you have that. The more better shooter you have , the better rebounders your going to need. They may sound silly but its true.. I don't have the offensive rebounds. I can go out and get better rebounds. Which im going to do next season.

I see why people quit the rebuilding training is just a horror show to watch on your team. I really get tired of nba allstar type games scores in lost when I have 4 defender with od 13-14 respectively.. The game is just senseless in rebuilding process . These new guy are not doing a damn thing for the money spent and to train. I thinking training is not for everybody. Having a 3pt team is hard work and every expensive long term because this is a inside game. The 2pts will be going in more than the 3pts.

I think building mid range shooting team is the smarter bet also having extreme free throw shooters and drivers. that what I think. btw my team was shooting 182.% from 3pts this season, . I did a few adjustment to get it above 300% this season. Some resulted in wild losses



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 6/4/2014 1:40:53 PM

I'm not going to quote your post, I'll just say a couple of things that should hopefully be helpful if taken to heart.

-- You're not shooting 300% this season from 3, or even 182%. (http://bit.ly/1ovARYA)

-- Winning with defense is definitely possible. But it's extremely hard (read: expensive) to be a lights out offensive team and a shutdown defensive team. Luckily, it's a lot easier to be a sound offensive team with a defensive club. If you can force your opponent to shoot low percentages, force a lot of turnovers, do not turn the ball over much yourself, and don't get destroyed on the offensive boards, you should have enough offense to scrape together wins. I always think of it as aiming to score 20 in a period and hold the opponent under 20 - do that four times in a game, and you win.

I do have throw my two cents into this conversation.

1) Although OD seems to awesome in nature, I think it gets a little too much attention. For one thing it takes extremely long to train. It may be awesome to have on other players, but on my own trainees I'd like them to have more skills overall. However I am planning to get my 6'11 SF superstar trainee up to 13 OD. If I try to spend more time training OD I will never have him reach his potential and SF tends to be a weak point on most teams anyway.

2) There are a lot of players on the market with 18+ OD. Adding one to the team is not that much of a challenge.

3) Not every player needs awesome OD. If you want a scoring specialist to make your offense more balanced it makes sense to do that. Trying to have your scoring specialist be a defensive specialist as well is truly costly. It can be done but find one below 100K salary with 18/12/18? You won't - none on the market as we speak.

4) I'd worry more about the economy and earning income than having the perfect team developed. If a player is too costly to buy or costs too much per week he is not good to have on your team. No matter how good his OD is.

It cost money to do, with price restriction on who you can buy we will never obtain a balanced team anymore. Any one can get some old vet with great od and some scoring it not hard to do. But soon as you build them, its to expensive to keep. Because the cap is right there.

I don't have O rebs because,of the cap, now I can buy it or I can train and sell it. What the point of training for 4 season just to sell it??. yes 1-3 million is nice to have. We have to pick the poison if you will.. The market is just out of control in price and a talent.

btw my team is shooting 0.336% from 3pt range as a team, before it was as low as 182%.. it right on my team page in blk&white/

It cost money to do, with price restriction on who you can buy we will never obtain a balanced team anymore. Any one can get some old vet with great od and some scoring it not hard to do. But soon as you build them, its to expensive to keep. Because the cap is right there.

You do know that the limitation on purchasing players is their *SALARY* and not their transfer price, right? You can bid on any player in BB right now that has a salary under 163,000, and maybe a bit higher than that. You're not going to have any problem at all being prevented to bid on balanced players, though - they'll be more expensive because people recognize the value in having balanced players, but if their salary is greater than 163k/week, they're not someone that makes sense for a team not in I no matter how balanced they are.

And building to keep is far cheaper than having to buy them. I spent seven or so seasons training them, and got pretty good use out of them the past several seasons, and should continue to do so for another six without even having to worry about skill drops. It's certainly preferable to having to go out and buy 26 year olds, especially with the skills the way I want them being an expensive proposition.

I don't have O rebs because,of the cap, now I can buy it or I can train and sell it. What the point of training for 4 season just to sell it??. yes 1-3 million is nice to have. We have to pick the poison if you will.. The market is just out of control in price and a talent.

I'm not going to bother discussing your team, since that's never been productive in the past and certainly won't be in the future. The "cap" is there, you figure out how to build the best team you can with those constraints and good luck with that.

btw my team is shooting 0.336% from 3pt range as a team, before it was as low as 182%.. it right on my team page in blk&white/

They're shooting 33.6% now, it was 18.2% earlier. If you put the percent symbol after a number, that means how many out of 100. 0.336% means less than 1 out of 100, which is clearly wrong, and 182% means that for 100 three point shots attempted, you make 182. Clearly you can see the problem with that. I hope.

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 6/5/2014 12:00:39 PM

Not being rude . I don't thinks it worth the money paid long term unless that player is dynamic or nt caliber. there still will be a cap. training him long term his worth will still hinder your cap. I don think this fair, just because you haven't trained him you have to pay a penalty, its stupid. If a trained player will always be better, then what is the issue??

Trianing jr and js and all the skill for the player to near perfect is crazy expensive even you make a NT caliber player, it expensive. Training player lead to tanking the majority of the time, Just to make 1 player good or worth a lot of money which is what we are seeing.18-23 year old going for 2.8 million, Then you have older player with exp and high skill going 1.2 million. Now you can catch a deal because people want to sell these old players . Because youth will always get and be the better route and fetch better long term success. skill and Exp be damned in the older player

I have been here goods while and I never have seen a 20 yr old going for almost 1-3 million on the market till now, it really blew my mind and it scary that it will only get more expensive because none can hold on to these players or want to because the value sell is so high. which inflate market value which mean Jr and the likes will be more harder to get on the market.., Unless you train it which sets you back in progress goals unless your like me keeping your team till 37 to get every damn spent into them back. And no I didn't mean to say dime.

Who can afford these players only the up top team only can, because again low ranked division are capped they don't have the arena to get such funds to keep a good roster, they don't have exemption either.. Training player will get your team better true. But you have to buy player to compensate when your going for a title or play off, No on has the time train Jr. / js and etc on 18 yrs old every season its expensive and waste of money long term when other goals are need to succeed..

It getting tired after some time. it getting dull.. why restrict a team from getting jr or what ever skill you need , if they can afford it. I say let them have it, if they over spent in salary it will hit them in the team bank account regardless. why tax them double?. Just because they didn't train the player,the system is going to tax them? They already paid 1-3 million in the market place regardless of league play.. I dont think that is fair regardless of the exemption. Only teams with the long money can afford such trainers to make good strong players. Some may dis agree, but look the Chinese teams and top league teams. No bottom league team has the trainer 60K or better..

So would say why should they have it? All you need is 40k a week trainer level 3. I say because trainer level do different things yes maybe small but its called top level trainer level 5 for a reason. Try find the top one for 40K$, suffice don't mean excellent results, it mean ok results with luck you can get better than good and sometime great result. And that with luck.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 6/5/2014 2:34:17 PM

.336 is the same as 33 %. real close to 34%.. but since it work like tens, hundreds ,thousandths.. its .336.



So im not saying anything different than 33% when I say .336%< Soo need to dwell in that if we both what is being said. This is not my direct system to present in way of say it BB.. So not I don't see it as problem because it same thing no matter how break it down. Its basketball percentages , not carpentry. Not being rude.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 6/5/2014 2:46:46 PM