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Didn't remember about him, thanks

Well first of all hi, my name is yoav and I'm training this team since season 32, at season 43 I've managed to get up to the first league in Israel after selling a 22 yo player with 153k salary for 3.6 m ((43863576))
At that point I chose to buy amichai shalev as a trainer, I saw him for sale for 2.5m and after a bid war I bought him for 3.2m. The first season in the first league I've managed to stay but last season I lost 2-1 in the relegation series. This season I'm back to the second league and hoping to get back to the first
Now for some facts, I've played with amichai shalev as a PG most of my games at the first league and won some of them ((104759827) , (104759867)) and even the last game I placed amichai as my PG and got a win ((105997759))

Last thing I want to say is that you said some really offensive stuff about me and how I'm managing my team. You're saying that I'm a farm, although just last season I've paid over 600k for salaries each week trying to be as competitive as I can
I would be more than happy if you'll erase all of your accuses of me doing illegal stuff
thanks

Wow, You are a rude person.

I wrote this message in Hebrew since you don't seem to comprehend when you read in your own mother tongue, so didn't see why to bother. And, well, Google translate is always there. I admit I didn't know it's forbidden, don't use the global forums often and apologize for that.

Anyway, I was wondering where the coach of a medium community with pretty mediocre teams, who have never achieved one serious achievement at the level of national or young teams find the pretence to criticize the way other communities are run. On what right do you say that the coach of our young team is lying to the coaches so that they will hurt themselves economically? In what right do you call Israeli teams farms without a shred of proof, because they chose to run in a different way from yours?

So first of all, thank you for your advice. However, we are doing quite well in managing our community. I think we are doing a nice job on this subject, which can be seen mainly in the youth team with whom we won a bronze medal in the World Championship. Remind me when England reached a similar achievement?

The coach of our youth team and I have full coordination regarding the training of young players relevant to the youth but also the potential for the National team. In most cases, the National team and long-term needs precede the needs of the youth team. In some cases we choose to combine and in some cases, relatively rare, we decide to focus on the needs of the youth team. We do this when we look at the ceiling of the contribution that the player can reach in the national team compared to how much he can contribute to the youth team. If we see a player whose best case would be a complementary player on the national team and could be a monster in the youth team, we prefer to focus on the latter. It may be a mistake, but it is certainly not an illegitimate decision.

Your economical claims also don't have a solid basis: Trying to give a new coach the chance to train a 2.24 cm player for years at the point guard to give him better secondary skills is almost certainly a recipe for failure. The chance that he will be able to develop a relevant player is lower than the chance that he will retire from the game. Training primaries is easy, rewarding and working, and in the end, also brings in nice money when the player is ready. Not crazy, but if you're a new player and you've come up to the point where you sell the big men you trained for 4-seasons who played for the youth team -It's already a win since it means we added another player to the buzzerbeater community. I don't know about you in England, but in Israel, we fight for each user trying to keep the game alive.

BTW, I see you were very troubled with the fact I violited the rules by writing in Hebrew. I wonder, is calling other players cheaters in the forums without proof is a legal action? Or the rules just don't apply to you?

Last edited by Bill_tipesh at 5/15/2019 4:19:18 AM

All I can tell you to summarize all your posts here is that I kindly reccommend you to revaluate your positions or at least reexamine your attitude towards other users and communities.

Have a nice day.

Your "recap" of Yoav's actions are just your own interpretation made to fit your outrages claims from before, so I'd like to do a recap of my own.

You made 2 statements in your first comment:
1. "Monoskilled players do not sell well on the market"
2. "Nobody will train a 100k+ salary monoskilled player out of position"

Actually there was a third false statement about managers in Israel recommending having 6/7 trainers plus facilities, not only is that ridiculous because you don't need facilities or high level trainers for a monoskilled player, but Alon also clarified that wasn't case yet you still insist on having them as part of your "calculation" of how much it costs to train in your latest comment. whatever, on to the main dish.

Yoav pretty much destroyed both of these statements, but let's go back a bit before that. First, Alon showed you that monoskilled players do sell well, he provided one example which you dismissed as some kind of conspiracy because he was bought by an Israeli team, but when Yoav showed you one of his players was sold (for even more money) to a team in Macau and told you that the Israeli player had a bidding war over him you make up an even crazier conspiracy about Israeli team inflating the price, needless to say, backed up by zero evidence. And the player sold to Macau? Not even mentioned by you, probably because it doesn't fit with your conspiracy. No matter how to try and spin it, your statement about monoskilled players not selling well was just wrong.

Next, Yoav showed that you can train a high salary player out of position and still be competitive, but that doesn't fit your way of running a team in BB, because it's not as efficient. I mean, if you want to play the most efficient game, why not sell your entire team, buy a cheap lvl 4 coach, train a bunch of cheap trainees, sell them after 4-5 season and repeat for about 4 cycles until you have insane amounts of money, then just buy the best players, have a crazy payroll and start winning titles? probably because that would make the game boring as hell. well, some people like to see their NT/U21 (or their players in the NT) succeed just as much as their own team. I know our community is like that, maybe the English community is different and people only care about their own team. "To each their own, I guess".