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yeah but those automatic systems don't see injuries, or that Starplayers of team a play already 70 minutes and the games before ain't tie so he'll probadly tie this game with c team ;)

Such thinks are easy to see for humans, hard to see for maschines, i think such system works only proper at the first game, when both teams had to win(in league i sometimes go for on secure win, and "give up" the away game)

this would be only for B3 games where is noone giving up

and if you are worthless after some injuries on B3, you shouldn't be there i think

I imagine my point that on the "betting engine" would be visible matches and marked like "risky" or "easy" for bet and you can bet and win all matches on your ticket or lose money

this would be only for B3 games where is noone giving up

really? I think they are teams with more or less priority to there local cup or league.

Maybe when they take out the minutes for training like NT matches, this would help alot that the teams start with there best 5.

and if you are worthless after some injuries on B3, you shouldn't be there i think

There are some teams in the cup which make a good way in our country with a clear starting five, and i ain't sure but i believe the guy from the fourth leagues wh made it to the final last year ing ermany was one of then. And maybe you aren't worthless, but you are mcuh weaker, the german B3 teams lost many games in the league they normally wins, because they ain't got as good backups.

really? I think they are teams with more or less priority to there local cup or league.

Maybe when they take out the minutes for training like NT matches, this would help alot that the teams start with there best 5.

betting can be started after some rounds where will be separated grain from the scum

..or it could be introduced only few times per season

There are some teams in the cup which make a good way in our country with a clear starting five

this will change by the time, the game will get older and more exciting - I don't think that the team can do league, cup and B3 by 5 players.. and if you decide to play B3, you will put there always your best I think because of the benefits (at least I would)

I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just trying to say that this would be interresting and it is possible

edit: I don't agree with "not" training players during a B3 game, isn't necessary to erase this benefit/difficulty

Last edited by Iordanou at 6/7/2008 10:41:19 AM

I just had this crazy, yet fun idea while watching a 3B match. What if we could bet on a game? Even if it is small amounts (so the main economic structure of BB don't gets too affected, but some extra to maybe help the poor teams)

I don't get how betting can help the poor... The only thing I saw in real life was that betting made the poor even poorer (in fact, they actually became poor because they had been betting).

the proposed mini-game is something I think is not forbidden, so anyone who thinks he has the time, and has the courage to set up a system can start a thread (but not in the sugestions forum ofcourse)

this will change by the time, the game will get older and more exciting - I don't think that the team can do league, cup and B3 by 5 players.. and if you decide to play B3, you will put there always your best I think because of the benefits (at least I would)

I pretty sure that there will ever differents, and if you aren't a total dominating player in your country, you had no extra team for B3 and to buy this need some time.

And i think even if the game is progressing, teams would have some stars not a lot average players, becuase i don't need the top players to win in the cup and a bit more quality in league could be pretty usefull.

In Cup there eare always promising teams from low devisin, who look that they got 8 strong players for a cup, and play with an weaker team in league and they don't get the money for so much good players but through focusssing they are pretty strong in cup and after it in their playOffs.

edit: I don't agree with "not" training players during a B3 game, isn't necessary to erase this benefit/difficulty

Yeah thats an point where we could discuss :)

Some people say splitting the team is a major mission and an important tactical choiche, i and some other wnat to play the strongest teams in B3, which plays the tactic where the manager ist mostly convinced of his succes and not which will fit best in their game plan(i got some players for outside and inside tactics)

The only thing I saw in real life was that betting made the poor even poorer

precisely

after the betting system will be implemented, the neverending thread will come automaticly too I think:)

and make B3 even more glorious

Last edited by Iordanou at 6/7/2008 12:30:31 PM

Betting is a two way street. You can lose and you can win. I don't play poker in casinos because I know I will lose. That's why I play only among friends, because I know how's their personality. If you had continued reading the post, you'd see I made another suggestion that was limiting the amount just for the purpose of creating the buzz around the games without affecting the main economic structure. And let it become a lot more like real games where people go see the previous scores of the teams and try to make a decision. Get to know another team, other than theirs, bet on the game and watch the game. Be part of the game in a way. This is a idea with tremendous potential and it doesn't has to be limited by what I think or what you think. Ultimately, I think there are ways to create a healthy competition inside BB and create more expectation around the games, other than a news post like we give a crap about 3B. Personally, I don't.
Other users had continued to develop this idea (that when I have more time will read, but now I'm a bit into my work), but I think we all think it's funny to see who has the "most betted team" aka "the most adored team" in each season, who is the player who made the best choices and make BB game more alike the real games.
So, for the sake of the discussion read all the posts before commenting and don't make like Lord of Doom and I that just added nothing to it.

Last edited by the L train at 6/7/2008 1:09:51 PM

for the record, I did read all the posts before commenting.

I did only comment on your theory that it would be good for the poor. I still am not convinced. little money or no, they still can loose it, and for the ones that only have little, loosing little is loosing all...

This said I never said I was against your idea entirely.
Therefor I said that it would be nice to have a mini game like someone else suggested. the only thing is...who's going to step up and do the job? ;)

How about make it a mini-game. Instead of real-money. You get chips to bid on teams of your choice. Then we'll have a ranking list of who got the most chips as it is with Flagchase.

It is funny to see which team got favored by real players.

Suggestion still stands. It's still fun without the financial issues you guys are arguing about. but i believe this should only be implemented when all other relevant issues in the game are solved. in the meantime i might do something in this nature in the Dutch forums and see how that will work out.

betting without the issues ehhh