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Hi Brooksy,

If you go onto the offsite forum you can compare your own players to those of the players on the national team to get a fair idea.

and if you can't ? ;-)

BB mail me like you have been :P

Hi J dog,

How much harder is it for a player to rank high in national u 21 games versus div 3 ?

Former national player Clifford Fallon (9469815) who is still eligible for u21 national duty, continues to average 11's when played as a small forward which is a lot better than the incumbant small forwards in the under 21 side who only ranked a 9 & 8.5 last game.

Sid

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 1/18/2010 7:35:59 AM

Hi Sid,

SF is one of the hardest positions to fill. I look for the best all round player, or someone that can help link the defense. I would much rather go into reasons on why I picked the team I did on the offsite forum, to prevent any international scouts spying on us.

There is one thing I can say though is that the level of competition is on a higher level than Australian Div 3 and I believe that may have an affect on ratings especially for the SF who is more well rounded than specialized.

I am quite comfortable with the selected team and unfortunately there are always going to be players left out.

Like I said I would feel more comfortable in getting into more details on the offsite forum than BB forums.

Thanks

He only played a small amount of minutes in those high ranking games.

Last edited by iwen at 1/18/2010 4:56:42 PM

That's the key here, I think - he has not had a rating above 7.5 this season when he's played more than 20 minutes. For a full game it's been 6.0-7.5.

Hi RabidCamel & Iwen

Those 3 games were the only 3 games Fallon played as a small forward.

The other games he played out of his position so that he would get training minutes either as a centre or point guard, so that I could best maximise his training.

If you notice historically over the last 3 seasons when he has played as a Shooting guard (2nd best position), power forward (3rd best position) or as small forward (best position) he has rated a lot better over good minutes

Small forward seems to have been the weakness of the Australian u21 team all season and because of Fallons all over evenness it is his best position.

Speaking of small minutes, Darcy only played 8 minutes for his rating of 9

Admittedly Stamina is not Fallons strongest asset but I'll give him 48 mins as a powerforward (still not his best position) tonight.

I hope you appreciate I'm not going to completely stuff up my training minutes by playing him long minutes as a small forward just to prove a point especially when J-Dog has a closed mind on the issue

Sid

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 1/19/2010 3:00:41 AM

Sid join the offsite and J-Dog can post exactly why he is not in the team.

SF is a hard spot. Some strategies work best with a SG or PF playing SF.

I don't know his skills. Haven't watched his games. So can't really comment.

You are Div 3 so stats aren't best way to judge. That said. Tos are high.

Games like (18116086) boost up his numbers as well.

Without watching him play or seeing his stats its really hard to say anything sorry.

Ratings aren't everything.

Yeh, please join the offsite forum so we can compare skills and discuss.

http://www.buzzerbeaterstats.com/phpBB3/

Like Coach Bob and Iwen have stated register for the offsite forum and we can discuss it further from there.

With that I encourage all aussie managers to register on the forum that way all areas of the team can be analyzed from all different views. Through open detailed discussions we can then make the best decisions to help the U21NT be as dominant and successful as possible.

Hi Iwen & rabidcamel,

J-dog dropped him from the U21s prior to the 10th season and given I've had the discussion with J-dog I don't hold out any chance of a recall for him to the national U21s. His most recent posts on this forum certainly don't help.

Truth is for the last month or so because of these conversations and the feedback I received, whilst I have still been training Fallon intensively every week, my focus has been on getting pops for my other small forward who will be a champion for Portugals U21s next year.

I would hope that Fallons rating of 9.5 over 48 mins in a lesser favoured position, which don't embrace his skills of Jump range and outside defence, quell your previous comments about his scores coming over low minutes.

My concern is that even learned coaches like yourselves see scores of 7's and 8's and don't click to the fact that he has been played out of position for the last season and a half, so as to best enhance his training.

I find it difficult to believe that he wouldn't rate as well playing as a Small Forward for Australia over 8 minutes as what Darcy did - Gees he almost rated that 2 seasons ago when playing in his second worst position (point gaurd) v Brazil.

True Small forwards are hard to find, most are just shooting guards or Power Forwards.

Coaches like myself who try to train small forwards probably deserve the encouragement & opportunities that countries like Portugal provide

Sid