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217742.151 in reply to 217742.150
Date: 12/30/2012 8:16:26 AM
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Great work BBall champ you have put in the efforts and I think everyone thanks you for what you have done. Well done daniel88 on winning the election. One thing don't forget to try and save at least the occasional rookie from retirement into free agency. I would be less gung ho than I was but still a lot of those guys did well for us. At one stage more than half of the real team was players I had saved from retirement. Even now a quick look at the senior national team.

Chitrambalam Pande (21259116)
Diksapala Bhushan (22080579)
Janki-Nathan Singh (19778605)
Mahendravarman Singh (19779393)
Shikhar Khanolkar (21651589)
Gurudeep Srivastava (19246738)
Shipirist Rath (18250544)

All of these guys we saved from being lost, that is a big chunk of the national team.


That's an incredible number of players. That's really motivating and it shows that we are headed into the right direction with our strategy in the past :)

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217742.152 in reply to 217742.151
Date: 1/13/2013 7:02:41 AM
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Analyzing the situation of India U21

Now that I am India U21's new coach for a few weeks and got an overview i want to share a quick analysis about my thoughts.

First of all: The support was and is great, a special thanks goes to the users bball champ and harsh who support me wherever they can. Great work guys!

I think over the last weeks we really changed something. Me and my staff members were writing and supporting every owner who has a potential U21 player. And the really positive thing about that: The large majority of owners are really helpful and cooperative. That makes this job very pleasant and that's why it's also so much fun right now for me (or for us).
Hundreds of mails were written and the positive consequence is: We were able to help many owners and improve the training of our Indian talents. We are headed in the right direction!

Looking at the short term perspectives: The 21 year olds are really a good age group. Not very good, but good for Indian standards. We will be able to win our third game in the Asia U21 Championship Tournament. One more than everyone expected. Sadly we will probably also be the only team with three wins who doesn't advane to the next round. But that's no problem, we are so to say the "best of the rest" which is very good for India. But much more important is that our players are very well trained and they are developing very good. Some of them could be an option for the A-Team in the future and that's what it's all about!

Don't expect too much wins next season. The 20 year olds are a pretty bad age group. Not in he back court, not at the SF position(both solid), but at PF and C. We really don't have many good players there so we have to be realistic and say: OK next season not many wins. I'll probably give some roster spots to some guys who are now 19.

Why?
Well our 19 year olds are really looking very very good! Maybe kind of a golden generation! We'll have lots of fun with these guys!

Finally i want to announce one change: India U21 has a higher level now. That's why I won't nominate player's who have star potential or lower from next season on. Why? Well in my opinion they have absolutely no chance to get to the A-Team and i would rather give a roster spot to a guy who is worse and/or younger but has the potential to be a better player long-term. bball champ once called me "potential obsessed" (he didnt want to offend me with that ;) ). Maybe I am. But for our A-Team this is positive.

If you have any comments, additions or questions please write it in this forum! I would love to see a discussion about my thoughts here.

Thanks for your time :)

Regards,

Daniel
India U21 coach



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Date: 1/13/2013 7:40:10 AM
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Great job daniel :)
Winning is not everything in U-21 NT. Setting potential guys in the right path and leading them to the NT lvl is also the important part, and that's exactly what you're doing :)

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Date: 1/13/2013 10:00:33 AM
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You are right on the saving people. Too many people are saved who then vanish because they have no growth potential.

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Date: 1/13/2013 1:51:37 PM
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bball champ once called me "potential obsessed"

haha you still remember that.
though honestly speaking I dont think I deserve my name to be specially mentioned in the help staff cuz as I have already told you that I was in some sort of a dormant sleep for a month and had close to 0 discussions with you(or with anyone else be it via mails or in the forums).
on the other hand,you have done a fantastic work with the team and winning 3 games with the present team is a big thing. i would love to see you continue coaching India for another 2 seasons(after the next season).
Not in he back court, not at the SF position(both solid), but at PF and C

so still no player found.hmmm thats bad.but I am still keeping my fingers crossed for an unearthed talent to be found in the next season.

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217742.156 in reply to 217742.152
Date: 1/14/2013 7:28:36 AM
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Great work mate !!
By the way new manager of Hasmukh Kumar want to train some more Indian youngsters, is there any potentiated U21 player whose manager want to sell that player ?

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Date: 1/14/2013 6:46:21 PM
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True. Let me know if you have NT players\rookies with high potential for sale.

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Date: 1/15/2013 2:22:06 AM
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Well our 19 year olds are really looking very very good! Maybe kind of a golden generation!


That is true.There are some really great players out there and if even half of them are trained properly we may see a complete transition of the U21 team to the senior team.

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Date: 2/24/2013 8:02:04 AM
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Harit Muralidharan (25669619)
Please bb mail his skills to me for NT database.
Thanks

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217742.160 in reply to 217742.159
Date: 2/24/2013 8:35:54 AM
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I made an overview of all the guys that played for India U21 this season and turn 22 next season.

Hall of famer:
Amarasri Singh SG 25539590

MVP:
Harit Muralidharan PF 25669619
Dharmanabha  Sen SG 25651333

Superstar:
Shipirist Singh PG 24225431
Vonod Akbar SG 24225487
Aamir Jhanda C 24225424
Diksapala  Nagappan  C 25649498
Vrajraj  Ansari  PG 25581165


Perennial Allstar:
Jogendra-Nath Umashankar  SG 24225483
Aharpati Mohan PG 24225396
Joseph  Scott PF 25588656

Allstar:
Shib Harish C 25522161

Star:
Yajnadhar  Sanjeevi  PF 24225433
Ambarisa Raza C 24225413


Players to watch (but didn't play for India U21 this season):
Achyuta  Murherjee  PG 25800934
Tapaniya  Bineesh PG 24225426
Abhinivesh  Rakshit  PG 24920402
Abanindra  Ganapathy  PF 25544013


I think the most promising guys for India's A-Team are Jhanda, Muralidharan and Amarasri Singh if they will be trained in the future. Doesn't mean the others won't play a role. But if I had to pick 3 guys, these 3 are the most promising guys in my opinion because of their development and potential.

The owners of all the guys above did a brilliant job in the past! Thanks to all of you and good luck for the future!





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217742.161 in reply to 217742.160
Date: 2/24/2013 8:47:24 AM
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thanks, this list is a great help for me

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