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No I do not agree. If someone pays somewhat over the odds for my player it is not my problem. I should get to keep the money.

I only agree that prices should be adjusted in extreme cases, or where there is obvious cheating going on, such as transactions occurring repeatedly between the same teams/IPs for inflated prices.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/5/2010 2:33:38 PM

...If someone pays somewhat over the odds for my player it is not my problem. I should get to keep the money.

...prices should be adjusted in extreme cases, or where there is obvious cheating going on, such as transactions occurring repeatedly between the same teams/IPs for inflated prices.

That is exactly how it works. If you are not colluding with friends to transfer money around, and you are not trying to bait newbies into bidding 200k on garbage players, you have nothing to worry about.

Regardless of what it may sound like people are saying to you, if you are not doing those two things, I think you should just relax and enjoy playing the game, because no one is going to fine/ban you.

I don't see what's wrong with baiting newbies into bidding $200k on garbage players. If I train certain skills that I know inexperienced players will over pay for and writing ads that convince inexperienced players to over pay on my guys then why should I be punished? That's a skill and doesn't constitute cheating (or at least shouldn't).

You're wrong. The GMs have told me I HAVE TO BE PARANOID AND SELF REPORT or I RISK BEING FINED OR EVEN BANNED.

they express it a bid misleading, but ithey also clear things up a lot of time here.

But self reporting isn't bad, normally it shouldn't affect decisions, but it is a sure sign that this wasn't planned which means less work for gm, which normally leads to a better mood when he really have to regulate the price :)

I'm not saying you can't notice that the market overprices JS or something and decide to start training/selling monoskilled JS'ers to turn a profit on; I was referring more to people who repeatedly take players with no business being sold for even 1k and decide to list them for 200k in the hopes than some new player will make a mistake and waste his money on them.

The point was that of the possible things he could do to get himself in trouble, scamming newbies is probably riskier than just simply buying/selling players over the TPE because you think that is their fair value. In the case of scamming newbies, you know it's not fair value, but you're exploiting the fact new people don't know that. Whether that is something you can actually get in trouble for or not I don't know, but it seems like poor sportsmanship regardless.

Also, not that you were making this point but I've heard other people make it, the idea that tricking newbies into wasting money on way overpriced players is some sort of 'lesson learned' teaching moment is lame too; newbies are going to make plenty of mistakes along the way as it is, I don't think it's good for the game in general to trick people into wasting good money on worthless players when they are just starting out. People who use that excuse are just trying to justify their own fairly mean-spirited attempt to make a quick buck.

i saw a perfect example of a player like that on the TL this week

he was a SF mid twenties about roughly starter potential with mostly bad skills including atrocious OD but he had prominent JS

i wouldnt play him even if he was given to me for free yet someone had bid 800k for him

can i really just train 5 horrible 1K players in JS for a season and sell them for 800K each this is crazy

On my first day playing, I spent 200k+ on a useless player... and when i figured out how to play, I almost just quit being so far behind (it's a lot harder to start up when you have about 50k, and a lot of useless players). Yes, some people will learn from it, bite the bullet and try to spend the next season making up for it, others will just leave. I think it makes sense to put in some protections for newbs.

That's just my 2 cents.

i agree i see a lot of new players first thing they do is spend 250K on someone that they think is great then they discover that actually that great player is not so great...

on the other hand even if you dont buy any new players with time and patience you can slowly improve your team assuming you were given something useful to work with my best player is one of my original players although he is the only one that was really good

how about price caps? that is, for div. v, no owner can spend more than, say $250,000 on a player. div. iv, $400,000; div. iii, uncapped. something along those lines may protect newbies and limit predators.