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BuzzerBeater is an online basketball simulation game that pits you against other managers across the planet.
56021 other teams couldn't beat us this season. Who's got next?

I would like to answer to those who posted the following:
- Small countries have an advantage on the Transfer List.
- This means nothing because they are not your direct opponents in your local league.

The first part is in agreement with the existence of an advantage for small countries, which allow them to grow faster and easier than in bigger countries. The ratio effort/reward is much lower in small countries, and I don´t think this arguable. If we have to accept this, then the BBs should redefine the introduction to BB, that we can read everytime we log in, where you are often challenged to be the best. But the global competition is not based on equality, so who's the best? I don´t think we can currently answer this question on the basis of international rankings or the B3 tournament.

The second part states that this makes no effect to the local competition, and this is also true because all of the team in a country play in the same conditions. This sad argument can be compared with a town with a rich and a poor district:
In the rich part of the city, people get money with little effort so they can waste money without consequences. All of them have at least a Ferrari (or whatever car you think is cool and expensive).
In the poor part of the city, people don´t have money for cars, so they just have bikes and old cars.
Of course, people in the rich district very few times come to the poor part, and viceversa... So what? A poor person have a bike, his neighbours have also bikes, so he didn´t really need a Ferrari. However the rich people, yes, they need Ferraris because other way their lives would have no sense.

In the rich part, they have fast cars, but they don´t know very well how to drive because they don´t make real competitions between them. In the poor part, in order to survive, you really need to be the fastest pedaling with your bike, so you can buy a motorbike, then you have to be the best motorbike driver so you can buy a car and so on. But the 90% of the poor citizens will never have a Ferrari.

With this unfair competition,
how can anyone of the rich part call himself the fastest driver?
how can anyone call himself the Buzzer Beater best?

If the problem is that smaller countries exist, BB should try to solve this by making them accessible to all players in the game to fill those leagues. Players from overcrowded countries could then relocate to a smaller country, or players new to the game could chose a country they would like to play in.

In the rich part of the city, people get money with little effort so they can waste money without consequences. All of them have at least a Ferrari (or whatever car you think is cool and expensive).
In the poor part of the city, people don´t have money for cars, so they just have bikes and old cars.
Of course, people in the rich district very few times come to the poor part, and viceversa... So what? A poor person have a bike, his neighbours have also bikes, so he didn´t really need a Ferrari. However the rich people, yes, they need Ferraris because other way their lives would have no sense.

In the rich part, they have fast cars, but they don´t know very well how to drive because they don´t make real competitions between them. In the poor part, in order to survive, you really need to be the fastest pedaling with your bike, so you can buy a motorbike, then you have to be the best motorbike driver so you can buy a car and so on. But the 90% of the poor citizens will never have a Ferrari.

Hey man!

A-M-E-N

The funny thing of BB is pedaling --> motorcycling --> driving old car...
This would justify that those easy-created powerful teams do not really play this game, at least what I considered true Buzzerbeater.

Last edited by Pappa Flaah at 1/29/2010 6:31:23 AM

I think that an advantage on the TL means something. If we speak about staff members for example if I have a 18 years old MVP potencial player and a team of a less populated country has another high potencial player. If both of us play in the same division in our countries and he is in a better economical situacion because of the economical inbalance he can hire a level 6 trainer maybe and I will be able to hire only a level 4 trainer.

if both play in the same league you should have the same income, or you ha to overthink your strategy ;)

This affects negatively the spanish sub-21 team that is in clear desadvantages. Or if a spanish sub 21 player is being trained in one of this cointries teams he has an advantages over me to getting his player named for the sub-21 team because of his economical advantage and his possibility of hiring better trainers. And if his player is named an mine no I am losing money.

it looks wired, that the spanish/italians subs usually are better, and have big advantage about the small nations - because of more managers who maybe sacrified a bit succes for their teams(hiring a level 6 trainer is for example such a step, because i don't believe that this is economic) and have a lot more drafts.

Since the staff members is the same for all of us the system is punishing some countries teams. Its evident.I really think that we are playing a diferent game depending on the country we play. I am still waiting the premium version that others countries have. maybe someday?

at least it punish my competition the same like it punish me.

What do you think about what LA-Emilio has exlained?
I think that he has expressed what most of us feel.

In general I agree with what you are saying. However, I disagree with the following:

But the global competition is not based on equality, so who's the best?

There is no global competition. Just some weird tournament called the B3, which is not really a global competition. I say that because one of the ways to get in is by winning the National Cup... And doing that takes mostly luck. The actual tournament is all about luck, too, because of the random draw involved and part of that random draw is home court advantage. There is no game shape management involved, either, which basically means it is your best players against my best players, so depth does not really matter Also, the amount of money from winning games in the B3 is absurd. The tournament means absolutely nothing from that standpoint.

Also, I think your allegory is a bit of an exagerration. It is more like there are two parts of town: one that is really rich, another that is just rich. In both cities people are driving Ferrari's. It is just that the 2nd city is a bit bigger, so not everyone gets a Ferrari, but everyone can afford at least a comfortable mid-sized sedan.

I think that only the top 128 teams in the world should be able to play in the BB3. For KING DRIVE BALLERS not to have made the BB3 being ranked #4 at the end of last season was just not right.
Then you can have region champion leagues games...Asia and Africa and so on..
Or, make teams from new countries play the runner ups( in the league) from the 10 biggest( most users) countries. That should fix everything I think. peace

NO. Teams go up and down. I went from 7200 last season to 3300 this season. Sure, the top 50 might still be the same but I think there will be 30 to 40 new teams a year.