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206866.152 in reply to 206866.150
Date: 3/6/2012 5:59:32 PM
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please stay on topic

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206866.154 in reply to 206866.148
Date: 3/6/2012 9:23:36 PM
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[A player playing against BOT teams only will not last at this game.
That is what will happen due to your suggestion.


They will promote after one season into a league with humans. When you start play, you don't really know the difference between bots and humans and you are very happy with a 5 or 10 game winning streak. You have some time to build your arena, get a couple of players and learn about tactics. In the current system, you are up against monster teams with salaries that are 10 times yours with arenas that can maintain that.
I guarantee that you will have more interest if you start with 5 straight wins than if you are crushed by 80 points in every single game. I really see no downside to starting in one lower division.

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206866.159 in reply to 206866.155
Date: 3/7/2012 12:35:33 PM
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With a starting team if someone is slow to learn, they will lose against bots anyway. Not that I disagree with y9our point at all. I agree 100% its better they start playing bots. Gives them time to figure stuff out. By the teim they want to play humans for a challenge they will promote!


I doubt that you can lose to a bot team with the roster given to you at the beginning. Even if that is the case, a small amount of money to buy a cheap veteran will turn you into a contender.

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206866.160 in reply to 206866.159
Date: 3/7/2012 5:23:43 PM
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1) Playing against BOT teams will not be exiting for the user.
BOT teams are really bad here.

2) After a single season those teams will be promoted to the same II division, and will suffer from the same things, and thus... leave.

The numbers of the community proves that there are as many users leaving the game as there are those who joins it.
Guess why.

3) Each team value (Roster's value, Arena cost, etc.) is something that grows over time. At least until a very high peak.

This is proven by the members of the first division's teams.
[Reminder at 3 of the largest leagues (France, Spain and Italy) there where only teams from season 4 or older at that upper division. Those BB-nation are a quarter of the size of BB-community]

Hence, a user who will join the game to a league who consists old teams will feel he just can't compete (no salary cap), and hence will leave the game.

4) Demotion and promotion does not prove the salary cap will not work. That argument is poor as well as saying that it only work on USA soil.
This nonsense argument is used without example because it just has no ground.
Each league promotion or demotion means that the promoted/demoted team needs to perform accommodation.
Those caps are part of it.

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206866.161 in reply to 206866.160
Date: 3/7/2012 6:00:54 PM
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as usual pinis u r totally wrong

1) Playing against BOT teams will not be exiting for the user.


wrong

losing by 80 each game would make me think stupid game

winning by 10-20 most games would make me think great game & i am really smart

winning is a lot more fun that losing and at most it will be 4 a fraction of a season then u play humans once u have learnt a bit

2) After a single season those teams will be promoted to the same II division, and will suffer from the same things, and thus... leave.


wrong

there r 4 d2s in each nation so which 1 they go to is random & they will be scattered & have a much easier time

3) Each team value (Roster's value, Arena cost, etc.) is something that grows over time.
Hence, a user who will join the game to a league who consists old teams will feel he just can't compete (no salary cap), and hence will leave the game.


wrong

that is the whole point of starting in d3

but lots of old teams go through changes too

ww arent talking spain or italy that is bs, its small nations where there is a high turnover because of problems like this

of 16 abbl teams last season 2 are now in 2d at salary floor training & rebuilding from scratch

there is also an abbl bot

4) Demotion and promotion does not prove the salary cap will not work.


wrong

wolph has already shown u how a salary cap would make no difference with the rich teams getting 5 killer balanced forwards, big men with really high passing, guards with crazy shot blocking etc all the things that are free on salary but make players better

really a lot of high salary teams r stupid & waste money when they could have better cheaper players, a salary cap would force them to do that & do nothing 2 change league balance, the rich can always buy the best players

it is such a simple change for the bbs, 1 line of code changed from "start new teams in 2/1" to "start new teams in 3/1"

every1 except u can see it makes sense

Last edited by abigfishy at 3/7/2012 6:05:18 PM

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