I don't think it's the offsite we necessarily need to back up. It's about backing up the team and asking good questions to find the right candidate.
I agree with this and for the most part, apart from perhaps Nova getting all ranty (and I do disagree with the sabotage sentiment) and thegame seeming to not want to connect with the existing offsite community and process apart from the pieces he's interested in, this offsite vs. non-offsite talk has been an overblown point that not many people are making. All of us want the USA to win Gold, not just GOLDBEAR.
So regardless of whether you win or not, how will you contribute to this? Phyr is the only manager who has been involved previously and committed to being involved in a substantial way, win or lose. For me personally, that says something.
Phyr, if scouting is so key and you were able to salvage the system when key offsiters left, which I agree you did admirably, do you have a plan in place to teach or recruit others who can also handle the scouting should you someday decide not to carry it out anymore?
thegame, my concern with what you continue to say is that you give off an air of being above reproach, that you have learned everything there is to know about managing and that you will always come up with the best decision. With all the different managers from the offsite, who already eagerly want to help the U21 team, expressing to you concern over a plan to exclude them from the game planning process, which has proven to be successful, you seem unwilling to budge at all or even consider anything otherwise. I think this is a flaw in managerial skills in communicating well because anyone can make decisions, in fact everyone does and in those moments everyone probably believes their decision is the best decision, but being a national team manager, especially in a large nation with the need to have the help of other managers like the US, also involves being able to work well with people on all fronts.
If multiple people, who could be of value to you, are expressing a concern to you over your desire to immediately change a process that has worked well, which would involve cutting out some people's participation and possible interest, are you at least able to see from their viewpoint and honestly consider if there is a better option than yours? No one is asking you to hold a vote every time you need to make a decision and strictly go by that, which is not how the offsite game planning tends to work anyways, we're simply of the belief that ultimately, having more voices in the room will allow for the most and best possible decisions to rise to the top. And in fact, if you'd go back and read some of the game planning threads, you'd notice that is a part of the reason why we've had our recent success. And you'll also notice that sometimes magiker, Phyr or EBW made calls against the grain of the majority which proved to be successful. Both sides, a capable manager and more brains to think through decisions, are valuable in my eyes and it bothers me that you think half of that is better than both.
oriolekid, why should we pick you over the other candidates? I believe the last time you popped back up in getting involved in NT affairs was a previous election. I get that you've helped in the past and run a lot but what else?
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GOLDBEAR, i'm just really confused by you. I can't tell if I should actually take you seriously or not.
Last edited by A Warrior at 8/8/2015 12:54:15 AM