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lol, you should have told me what offense they will play, and I wouldn't have played 1-3-1 in that case

I am surprised how can one judge the tactics by not guessing their offense...

As for run and gun, jbmcrock is right, it can be played differently. However... our team is not good enough on other plans, unfortunately. I tried once and had enough of it after seeing the rates.

I don't mean to antagonize the Canadian community, but it's got to be told that it seems to me that (with exception of 2 people), the reaction to NT team(s) is upsetingly superficial. People change approval rating based on winning or not winning a game, most probably not even checking the game stats.
The latest game is a great example for what i say here. We had no business winning this game, we played a team vastly superior, the only chance was to take a gamble. It didn't work out, but it could have. If you bother to check the ratings, you see we are not in same league.

I definitely feel we overachieved again this season, however, people are discontent.

I started the team with great enthusiasm, and the interest from he community was minimal. I contacted players' owners in several occasions and at times didn't get an answer for weeks. Players ended up with bad game shape and nothing great seems to be coming from behind (look at U21 team).

Bottom line, people don't train, people don't really know what player pool we have, people don't scout our opposition (with very few exceptions as I said), but same people demand perpetual winning streaks.

It is a fact that we played teams that were also hosting the particular phase of the tournament and they do have an advantage that way.

Bottom line... Canada is in top 8 in the world with a team that doesn't justify it.

That's why it's puzzling to see the approval rate dropping after winning to US (vastly superior team and hosting nation) or Germany...

Not sure what the expectations were...

I think you are taking things too personally.

I haven't commented yet because I haven't really been paying very close attention. However, you don't really get to claim that you did some sort of exceptional job because of making top 8 because we were there last season as well. Why shouldn't you be expected to at least do as well as last season?

As I said, I have not paid attention so I cannot complain with what you've done as coach, but at some point you have to be open to discussion without getting defensive about it every time.

As I stated about previous term, that was overachieving as well... We do not have a team that compares with the top 8 teams in the world

I think we had to choose a 1-3-1 or 2-3 and hope that we picked the right one. So probably good tactic on that front (except for the wrong guess). For the offensive end, I know run and gun is better for the team than look inside, but playing look inside or another offense would prevent teams like the USA from playing a 1-3-1. That said, surprisingly few teams have played a 1-3-1 against us. It looks as though if Deutschland had chosen an outside focus on offense, we would have won even with the run and gun.

Our offensive stats with look inside are much lower than our offensive stats with run and gun (as you stated).
Also, looking at the game stats... we would have been just slightly better off, I have my doubts we can go over strong (low) with inside offense, we didn't manage much previously. We would have also lost with inside offense. Our only hope was to catch their offense with the right defense.
If we did, we would have probably won the game, which it would be purely on tactics, the stats below speak for themselves.


Canada Team Ratings Deutschland

Run and Gun Offensive Strategy Look Inside
1-3-1 Zone Defensive Strategy 3-2 Zone

proficient (high) Outside Scoring: respectable (low)
average (low) Inside Scoring proficient (medium)
strong (high) Perimeter Defense proficient (low)
mediocre (medium) Inside Defense respectable (medium)
inept (medium) Rebounding strong (low)
mediocre (high) Offensive Flow respectable (medium)

My approval rating has been positive since you started and it has not changed once. I'm pretty sure most people who take the time to see what's going on (forum users) understand that we are over achieving. I'm sure most of the negative votes are from the people who have no idea what's happening.

Well, I take offense to that. My vote has been thumbs down since nearly day 1, and I do have an idea what's happening.

The result has been good, though. I do agree with uflorin that we're not a top 8 team on talent. I think an objective look at how we got the result shows that it was more despite the coaching than because of it.

That is clearly not the point. Getting there once means we had a team obviously capable of getting there again, and for you to pretend you did a brilliant job on the basis of doing exactly what we already know can be done is laughable.

Now lete me reiterate - rather than getting defensive why don't you try engaging in some constructive conversation.

With that part I don't have a problem. I don't agree with it, but it doesn't bother me. You have a reason and you do study and have your own opinion.

I know I chose same offense very very often, and it was a choice. I am still confident it was the right choice, and I do think the results came because of this.
Of course, looking back is easy to say they should have played certain defense or what not, but at that time they didn't know (until recently when it became obvious) that I will stick with that tactic.

I did change it once, partially to try to see the stats and partially to leverage it for future games, different offense and it was with disastrous results.

I have no regrets in using the tactics I used, and I would probably do it all over again if the term would start now. of course, history not withstanding, but if a fresh new start and they would not know that I played it so often, I would definitely consider it.

Bottom line, evaluating performance without studying the data in hand was what bothers me, not negative justified feedback

It may be the poor Canadian educational system, or your French Canadian shining through, but I didn't understand you comment.

I am very curious as to know why you vote thumbs down. I think it'll give me a better understanding of the game, and also so that we know what needs to be improved with the national team.

There isn't enough healthy discussion going on in our Canadian forums. Hpw do we generate a better Nation and U21 team?

There isn't enough healthy discussion going on in our Canadian forums. Hpw do we generate a better Nation and U21 team?

I will answer this question. Instead of teams hording young talent, drafted 18 yr-olds with high salaries should be sold to be trained by another team (unless that team can devote sufficient training resources) - perhaps by another Canadian team. With a small user base, this is the only way to really compete. I am still surprised at the lack of talent on the U21 team. As a comparison, my 20 yr old Romanian SF with a $37k salary can't even make the U21 Romanian team.

1. My statement that I have not been closely following the national team is hardly an admission that I am too stupid to understand the relative player quality of the opposition.

2. My statement that the team has been there before has nothing to do with overachieving either. If the team has made it before it is perfectly reasonable to believe it can be done again.

3. What does using the forum have to do with it? Are you suggesting
I don't use the forum?

I love how you essentially condemn the ignorant with a statement far more ignorant than the behavior you are condemning. I know enough about whats going on to know that we can get into the top 8, yet you toss out a blanket statement that disagreement = ignorance.