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Yeah, it doesn't even out at all. We've been playing for almost the exact same amount of time, yet you have a twenty-three thousand seat arena. It is a known thing that teams starting out in a small country have accelerated economic growth. Cool, that's great. I really don't care about that. What I care about is how unresponsive fan support is to league difficulty. If I'm in the toughest DIV league in my country, and I make the playoffs as a first year team, I should at least sell out my playoff games, no? If I pull an upset of the one seed an advance to the second round, I should probably see an increase in fan support, right? As currently constructed, these things don't happen (and if they are accounted for, the effect is so minor as to be negligible).

Still, nowhere in my post did I say that I want teams from other countries penalized. All I want is for fan support to react realistically.

I think record is not everithing in real life. If I'm a fan and my team promote to higher league I except that team to give their best to win, and I will not be too mad if they lose and even demote if they try.
I mean if I see same players on a court like last season, or if there are some changes on better, than I can say my team put effort, but if after promotion I see all new faces and they are porer in quality than last years players, than I'll abandon my team...
I think it is easy to track players salaries and see if manager at least stay at same lvl as last season and if he did not (if he sell out team and go thanking) than fans suport should go down a lot in just few games of that season (regardless of promotion boost). Also after sutch a move fans trust should be harder to earn in next season or two.

As it stands, maybe it's only 5%-10% of managers who are screwed by this change, but that's still a large number.

Could you explain how they are screwed by this change?
Only impact of this change is that if you pay salaries less than salary floor, you will make smaller profit than earlier. I can use my team as example. Last season in I.1 I got 600k net profit per week (yes I was tanking). With current salary floor that would be some 200k less, which I think is right. Making 600k per week is way too big advantage and it's good that something has been done for that.
Okay then this season in II-division, I'm still paying way below the salary floor, my fans are unhappy because I demoted. Now I get "only" 300k net income per week (this will go down during the season, I'm sure). So all teams who are not paying more than PSF amount salaries, will make nice profit anyhow.
Do you now think that those couple of bucks, which are now taken away because of PSF will screw a whole team?

I'm not only talking about teams who scrape past the floor; I'm talking about overmatched teams who make a genuine effort to compete, but get relegated anyways and suffer an unrealistic hit in fan support.

I'm not only talking about teams who scrape past the floor; I'm talking about overmatched teams who make a genuine effort to compete, but get relegated anyways and suffer an unrealistic hit in fan support.

So PSF has nothing to do with that....Sorry if I misunderstood that you said PSF was screwing some teams.....

How fans behave is totally different topic then. I think biggest problem is not how fans react after relegation.....How fans react after giving up (tanking) is a bigger problem.
I relegated and I got 335k from my first home match. Average in my division was 295k. I cannot say that this is unrealistic hit in fan support. I don't care about fan survey, arena income is the only one which matters.
So do you have opposite examples related to relegated teams?

Team A and Team B finish with the same record, 0-22, and both demote.

How?