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From: Marot

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109686.157 in reply to 109686.156
Date: 9/19/2009 1:34:21 PM
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Im a litle bit shocked with some of your arguments you used(and im not using any translator to write in english so i know exactly what im saying).

I talk about an spanish example because i know something about it. When i see for example one team in a small country winning all his matches, league/cup without many problems(and im not talking about you, just about small countrys teams) i cant imagine an spanish team doing the same. Here in Spain we have a really III competitive league or II league its also really hard and 1D its has a really good level. The 1D teams they werent earning much money in compare to top teams of small countries, its not a complain it was and its a fact. Arrived to that point i dont know why u say they arent good managers, so if Leyendinha or Mos winned the Euro or the World in NT its just because we are a big country? Its the same as if i say that you are only a good team not manager because you are in small country and nobody is complaining about that point, we complain about imbalance in the economy.

You can have 1-2 good players or 3 from another country, but if you want a realistic game its obviously you will have players from your own country so in my opinion it has been a good idea to introduce this change so managers from big countrys have more options to sign a player from their country.


And last point of view imagine in real life what happens in euroleague, teams like CSKA or Macabi havent many troubles to arrive at final four because they can focus more on euroleague than on their own national league because the level is lower. Remember that the supporters of teams normally their favourites players are from their same country or city so its normal that they prefer their t-shirt rather than a foreign player.

So arrived to all that points if you are honest, you are complaining because you dont earn enough money? If BB's give u more tools to earn more money i dont wanna imagine how disappointed would be any manager of your contry to arrive at your same level in terms of economy because there would be a lot of difference.

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109686.158 in reply to 109686.1
Date: 9/19/2009 2:21:08 PM
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Are the club records gone for points, rebounds etc in a game? They are not important, I just do not find them anymore..

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109686.160 in reply to 109686.159
Date: 9/19/2009 2:26:42 PM
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The ones for the best performances in a match (points, rebounds, blocks etc) in the club history, btw they were quite stupid as they were older than the franchise and quite impossible to beat... Didn't they use to be found under the Team Stats?

Edit: records regarding a player's, not team's, performance

Last edited by D. Mirosavljevic at 9/19/2009 2:30:56 PM

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109686.161 in reply to 109686.160
Date: 9/19/2009 3:10:06 PM
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could anyone help me figure out why I can't log in to the new site with my computer?

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109686.162 in reply to 109686.161
Date: 9/19/2009 4:01:14 PM
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Have you made it tougher to win road games this season? I got a strong feeling..

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109686.163 in reply to 109686.162
Date: 9/19/2009 4:11:42 PM
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We didn't adjust the home court advantage explicitly. But what the effective home court advantage is can change even when our code stays the same as skills change and other parts of the GE change... we will always be looking at the overall percentage of games won by the home versus away team... last i looked it was still in about the same place.

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109686.164 in reply to 109686.163
Date: 9/19/2009 4:16:54 PM
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Ok! I have just seen some strange match stats/ results, and in my own league it is 4 road wins out of 24 matches, and my own matches are won by the home team all of them also so..:)

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109686.165 in reply to 109686.164
Date: 9/19/2009 6:22:41 PM
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First, I would like to introduce to everyone. I'm manager of the first Czech B3 semifinalist (second is bik_76).
I would like to say some of my feelings of new changes. But my feelings can be changed in few weeks, those are feeling after playing only one week with this changes.

1) I'm still little bit scared of new attendance formula, I will monitor it very precisely. But I'm little bit worry that one season of possibility of decreasing the stadium shouldn't be enough. Maybe possibility to decrease and get 50% of costs back starting from next season should satisfy me. Or let the possibility of immediate effect of changing ticket price for whole season or at least one month later. 3 league home match are not enough for experiments, balancing the prices and deciding for decrease the capacity.

2) I don't want to compare team from smaller and big countries but team in one country. I'm not sure how many effect already influence first new merchandise incomes but it look like you give advantage to some manager strategies. I know some points you mentioned first time 2 season ago (start of season 8), but it looks like managers which trained your drafted players starting from season 5 (first players with higher potential) now are the happiest one. (Many managers of Czech D1 gave me his numbers for this week.)
One factor is whether you have a winning team. - it looks like having very small influence in merchandise.
Other factors include how many domestic players you have on your team - it looks like having quite high influence
and also how many were drafted by your own team, as fans like supporting local players more than imported talent. - it looks like having extremely high influence. And also it looks like working not for drafted players but for players involved to BB by creating team. So I have one question. In Czech NT is player which was drafted by my team, I trained him for almost 5 seasons and than sold them. If I buy him back for merchandise formula he would be drafted or imported player? (My hypothesis is that in code you count it when the owner is the only owner of player.)
It's really hard to draft good player which should stay in my team, when I picks usually as number 15 or 16 and in whole pool of 48 are 1 or 2 good players.
So, if in a given week your player played in a national team game, fans from around the country will buy their jersey - Does the scrimmage count? Or only competitive matches?
As a former Czech U21 manager and probably future Czech NT manager I can be happy for this changes. Also because I have in roster many top Czech players I can be happy. But I'm not happy because it threw teams which was on the same level each to different level. I think for me it will be much easier to win double in Czech rep. for next few seasons, because now I have really bug advantage against the only team which can beat me (5 seasons in row league finals Hostivar - Frydek, 5 season in row no other winner of tournament, only Hostivar or Frydek).
Finally, fans from around the league tend to notice the league leaders, particularly in important categories such as points, rebounds, and assists but to some extent in all categories. - Was it already involved after two games? If yes, it looks like having small effect. But this formula is for teams with many good players disadvantage, because points etc. are devided into them. Also training out of position is less effective for merchandise.

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109686.166 in reply to 109686.165
Date: 9/19/2009 6:29:20 PM
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But I'm not happy because it threw teams which was on the same level each to different level.


These changes were announced way earlier (i.e. that domenstic players would be economicly better), so if your rivals didn't change their strategies, and adapted to those announced changes, it's just bad management and the only to blame are themselves.

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109686.167 in reply to 109686.165
Date: 9/19/2009 8:59:32 PM
1986 Celtics
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I think winning does have a big factor on merchandising, but its not just whether you won this season (although that is part of it) its more are you generally a winning team or not, do you have a large base of support of people who buy your jerseys.

domestic players do have a big influence, we said quite specifically how big an influence they would have two seasons ago, we felt we had to stick with that size effect because we promised it and people should have adapted.

I don't know if its original team or only one owner team... I will need to ask charles, but it would have been easiest to code and most literal to code up whether the player was originally drafted by your team, and so you would get an advantage if you bought him back.. .but i should ask charles.

I believe that scrimmages do count.. charles coded it though so he is the definitive word on this.

I will point out that the political pressure on NT coaches is likely to increase, and there will be a whole set of interesting intra-country political decisions that NT coaches will be facing... they will have many more good players being developed for them by their countrymates, but also a lot more responsibility to put the best players on the team, else their constituents will be angry and boot them out for favoritism.

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