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117988.16 in reply to 117988.15
Date: 11/12/2009 3:19:08 PM
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no way driving is better for him. this guy needs jumpshot training, clearly. than you might want to train its inside skills. as far as i see, inside shooting is fairly ineffective if jump shot is low. it will also help with your outside tactics, to have your center be able to shoot.

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117988.17 in reply to 117988.16
Date: 11/12/2009 3:24:47 PM
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this guy needs jumpshot training, clearly.


Clearly this guy needs a lot of things, jump shot training included and I don't think I said it was more important to train driving. For example, atrocious outside d is asking for trouble, too.

You can continue to think that driving gives you a lower shooting percentage if you like, I'm just saying that's your interpretation and not everyone's.


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117988.18 in reply to 117988.17
Date: 11/12/2009 3:32:49 PM
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My goal for him is to keep him for a long time by the time that i am building my ''dynasty'' in CBBA. I will train big men for an other season and then i will switch to guards couz i want to develop my young SF. Usually i am playing LI, but i want my team to be able to adapt on any opponent. When i am playing outside tactics that guy doesnt score but he rebs and he plays D well.

For the rekord my SF prospect 18 y.o looks like that:

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: atrocious Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: inept

I want to train him an other season as a big man among my other players, and then switch my training to guards. If the right thing is switch my training to wing men, giving them (C and SF) some JS, and DR, i will do it. Then i will train him for lets say half season OD

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117988.19 in reply to 117988.17
Date: 11/12/2009 3:33:44 PM
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of course. i am not saying it is absolute truth, there are too many factors on shooting percentage after all.

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117988.20 in reply to 117988.16
Date: 11/12/2009 4:35:06 PM
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inside shooting is fairly ineffective if jump shot is low.


Is this really true? This is an honest question and not a challenge. I've understood that the two are separate. JS means mid-range to long range jumpshots. IS means low post to to inside the paint shots (that includes jump shot inside the paint).

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117988.21 in reply to 117988.20
Date: 11/12/2009 4:43:20 PM
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i have seen many centers with very high inside scoring and low jump shot, those guys do not shoot it much and well as they should. there might be tactic factor here though. some other opinions might help.

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117988.22 in reply to 117988.21
Date: 11/12/2009 5:13:45 PM
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I wonder if it applies more for PF then it's for Center.

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117988.23 in reply to 117988.21
Date: 11/12/2009 5:25:22 PM
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I can tell you that I have 3 big men with more than 8 in JS and they are not that better
in the paint but they score well from mid-range,but now that I'm in a higher league as they're IS is almost in every game equal or lower comparing with tehy're oponents I'm facing some troubles in my offensive side and even when playing outside focused offense they don't shoot that much more from mid-range

so my point is that JS is not that important so I'd rather train some driving if the player has none of it,doesn't mean that JS is useless it's good to have for all positions

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117988.24 in reply to 117988.20
Date: 11/13/2009 8:22:23 AM
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inside shooting is fairly ineffective if jump shot is low.


Is this really true? This is an honest question and not a challenge. I've understood that the two are separate. JS means mid-range to long range jumpshots. IS means low post to to inside the paint shots (that includes jump shot inside the paint).


In a strict sense, I think you are correct.

On the other hand... The engine is always trying to find a higher quality shot. If you can take better shots from different areas of the court, it is only going to make your player's inside shooting better.

For example, play really close attention to some recent look inside games. You will notice, on balance, that a fairly high proportion of the shots are short range jump shots. So of course, if you improve your C's jump shooting, you will also improve his inside shooting.

Then again, the same could be said of a PG for inside shot. But most people will tell you that inside shooting on a PG is not necessary. ;-) Much also depends on the skill level of the other 4 players on the court.

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117988.25 in reply to 117988.24
Date: 11/13/2009 8:32:19 AM
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"Jump Shot: A better shooter will make more shots at all distances."


i can interpret this as it affects shooting frequency. it does not only say they will shoot accurately, it say more. maybe they do not mean it like that but from the games i feel it really effects inside shooting by increasing the number of shots taken as well as the accuracy.

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117988.26 in reply to 117988.25
Date: 11/13/2009 8:41:02 AM
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"Jump Shot: A better shooter will make more shots at all distances."



I know people try to argue that jump shooting is required for inside shots but my belief is that it isn't. I'm more of the belief that there are different types of shots in BB that use different combinations of skills. For example, it was already mentioned by a BB at one point that the primary skill used in a driving shot is driving.

This is how I interpret the quote above: it is only referencing jump shots and outside shots in general. It is also meant to show the difference between the JS skill and the JR skill. So higher jump shooting will increase the chance that you can hit short jump shots. However, if you want to hit the long shots you will still need a certain amount of jump range to go with it.


Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 11/13/2009 8:41:14 AM

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