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12669.16 in reply to 12669.15
Date: 1/16/2008 2:36:41 PM
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What about the 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls. Some would argue they were the best team ever in the NBA. They went 72 wins and 10 losses. It can be assumed that they had the best match ratings in every game. But their winning percentage was not 100%. It was 87.8%. That means 13.2% percent of the time when the ratings said they should win they lost. Don't let losing when you should win upset you. It happens to the best of teams. Use that to figure out how come your team lost and how you can play different tactics and get better so next time you have a better chance of winning.

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Date: 1/16/2008 2:47:34 PM
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Please... Matchratings showing, how the engine see the differences between teams. For me, if yoa are better in everything and you lose, means that something is far away from ok. Or maybe indepedence atack/defense, and other things like rebunding, player skills, etc. dosen't matter in this game? Anyway, engine sucks.


The best team is simply not going to win 100% of the time, no matter how much you want them to.

The engine isn't perfect (none are), but it's one of the best there is.

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12669.18 in reply to 12669.17
Date: 1/16/2008 3:00:13 PM
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The engine isn't perfect (none are), but it's one of the best there is.


I agree here.

@Coach Fisher, exactly great example.

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Date: 1/16/2008 10:21:18 PM
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match ratings are calculated before the game starts and they are combined with the player ratings in every single incident..

Are you sure about this? I would tend to think that the match ratings are dependent on the skills of each player combined with how many minutes they play, and probably throwing the effects of stamina in there as well. I think that this would vary from game to game, depending on things like players getting into foul trouble and playing less, etc.

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12669.21 in reply to 12669.11
Date: 1/17/2008 10:31:14 AM
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Ok. I can agree with you. But this is not fair. You are plaing all sezon, you are training yor players, you are buing new and after all you will be the looser with somebody, who has worst team for two weeks, cause in engine is lot of space for fortune and misfortune... I can agree: better sometimes losse. OK. But not in playoff. And here, we got only one game - that means, that all your work and time in this game is worth piece of... nothinhg. It shouldn't be diffrent?
If engine is like this - let's make real playoff, when one lucku or unlucky game dosen't kick you out...
Or, let's make engine: you are better, you are winner.
If not, it's not a manager game...

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12669.22 in reply to 12669.12
Date: 1/17/2008 10:33:50 AM
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For example this game: (2101686). Is't "fair"? Or maybe will be fair tomorrow?[

Izolator Boguchwala has 33 PF and HARDRIVER scores on 27-54 on FT. Fair enough!



Pfff... Better team has more PF and this is only the reason of loosing game? LOL!
This is explination of engine - somehow points of worst team has to be showed...

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12669.23 in reply to 12669.15
Date: 1/17/2008 10:37:38 AM
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Please... Matchratings showing, how the engine see the differences between teams. For me, if yoa are better in everything and you lose, means that something is far away from ok.


I think this is where the problem is. The best team won't always win, that's never the case anywhere. That's just how it goes.
How could Greece win the Europian Championships soccer a few years ago? They weren't the best team at all.
How could the Pistons(record before the match 28-9) lose to the Knicks (record 9-29).

Having the best team, with the best ratings, does not guarantee a win.



Greece was better, other teams played nothing...
Knicks could beat Pistons, in one game, cause this game dosen't change anything. I don't belive that N.Y. K. could win in Playoff this sezon. Whit anybody...

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12669.24 in reply to 12669.17
Date: 1/17/2008 10:39:37 AM
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Please... Matchratings showing, how the engine see the differences between teams. For me, if yoa are better in everything and you lose, means that something is far away from ok. Or maybe indepedence atack/defense, and other things like rebunding, player skills, etc. dosen't matter in this game? Anyway, engine sucks.


The best team is simply not going to win 100% of the time, no matter how much you want them to.

The engine isn't perfect (none are), but it's one of the best there is.



Of course, I undersand this and I agree... But that means that no matter what you do, you can always loose. Nice...
And for me that means, that playoff whit one game is .... :/

From: Riko

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12669.25 in reply to 12669.21
Date: 1/17/2008 11:45:23 AM
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Ok. I can agree with you. But this is not fair. You are plaing all sezon, you are training yor players, you are buing new and after all you will be the looser with somebody, who has worst team for two weeks, cause in engine is lot of space for fortune and misfortune... I can agree: better sometimes losse. OK. But not in playoff. And here, we got only one game - that means, that all your work and time in this game is worth piece of... nothinhg. It shouldn't be diffrent?
If engine is like this - let's make real playoff, when one lucku or unlucky game dosen't kick you out...

i agree with you 100% on this. two of my friend trained , buy , sell players all season. spend so much time on this game and than to be kick off in just one game against someone who is playing for 2-3 weeks. Make playoff like it is in RL and random factor will be brought to minimum (still there but much more realistic ).

Or, let's make engine: you are better, you are winner.
If not, it's not a manager game...

this is not a solution. random is one of things that make this kind of games so interesting to play but with more games played in playoff, results will be fair (not 100% but thats why I LOVE THIS GAME ;))

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