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From: SM

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157471.16 in reply to 157471.14
Date: 9/21/2010 10:06:10 PM
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Well, you did play PON. Can’t say I expected to have a chance with the poor game shape, but with prominent OD vs mediocre flow your guards took way more shots than they should have, and that defense forced 19 TOs, which was the difference in the game.

From: ardain

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157471.17 in reply to 157471.16
Date: 9/21/2010 10:22:03 PM
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Prolific (medium) inside scoring vs. average(high) ID and Look Inside.
27 more rebounds!

Ratings wise, Digging is an even bigger upset. Inept flow, but a SG that goes 10-13 from 3pt range!
Outrebounded by 30 boards!

Crazy!

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157471.18 in reply to 157471.17
Date: 9/22/2010 12:25:47 AM
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Wow...I missed a lot of the discussion. I would have picked TWSS to win it all...so it show your what I know. Now I've got Silverbacks, whose beat me in our last two match-ups. Oh well...at least I'm at home.

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157471.19 in reply to 157471.14
Date: 9/22/2010 9:34:15 AM
New York Chunks
II.2
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Are you freaking kidding me????

That's what she said!

I just shaved my trained monkey and made him write "I will not doubt Silverbacks" one hundred times on the bars of his (my) cage to further his humiliation after his bold prediction went awry.

Turnovers and fouls/free throws did you in. All those steals meant Silverbacks had more effective possessions than your team, so even though you had a solid defensive effort on his outside-oriented offense, his perimeter players limited your possessions and sloppy handling by your center did the rest. 19 turnovers, that's like what my team does in the worst games, and SB only had 6. My trained monkey predicts you will now focus on training handling and passing. He also predicts your team will have new uniforms for next season, but they still won't be better than my team's uniforms.

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
From: GM-namssor

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157471.20 in reply to 157471.16
Date: 9/22/2010 10:03:10 AM
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I played PON because my enthusiasm was already 11 and I wanted to make a deep run. Figured that the home court advantage would dissolve your CT.

I expected my outside game to be shut down, that's why I went inside with my 56k, 97k, and 90+k big men against your 42k, 19k, and 13k guys. And yet they were somehow 17-45 shooting even with 2 guys having stupendous and marvelous IS. If you had told me I'd have been -3 levels in OD rating vs. my OS, but +5 levels in ID vs. my IS, as well as +1 in my OD vs. OS and +3 in my ID vs. IS, I would've taken that every day. Not to mention the 3 level rebounding advantage.

I just think it's a flaw in the game if a good outside defense can shut down an entire team's offense (and we had the same OD rating!), a good outside offense is impossible to stop, while a good inside offense and defense is useless because it supposedly can be somehow stopped by a bunch of little guards? This is basically how the Heathens have become a top 5 team in the world and won the NBBA title last year. They had nothing but insanely high OD and dominated. Just don't think it's realistic at all.

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157471.21 in reply to 157471.19
Date: 9/22/2010 10:12:51 AM
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Well my guards each have tremendous HN/DV and Billingsley (6 TOs) has sensational passing and no one on my team averaged more than 2 TO's a game, so I'm not worried about that. I have no idea where 19 turnovers came from. And most of the fouls came at the end in desperation, I can't blame that on the loss. Whatever I'm done fuming about this, time to blow up the team and start over.

From: chihorn

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157471.23 in reply to 157471.22
Date: 9/22/2010 11:16:27 AM
New York Chunks
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Yup, even in the real world, a team with all-world centers won't do much if the team can't get the ball up the court or get an inbound pass to the big guys.

The Forum chatter these days is a lot about the high value that guards now have, since they are harder to train, cost more on the TL, and seem to control the outcome of games to somewhat greater degree than the big men. There was one strategy in particular (related to understanding the importance of game flow) that I saw a few teams employing this season that resulted in these teams just playing way over their heads. Two of my surprising losses came against teams doing this (and most of my losses are not surprising since I know where I stand...) I've tried it out a few times now and either the dice are just rolling my way or it really helps. I won't mention what this strategy is, especially since I don't know if these teams fully understood what they did, but it was a revelation to me and I've shifted my course ever so slightly to help my team take full advantage for next season.

And sometimes dumb luck does factor into these games. I think my team has had it's share of jaw-dropping bad losses this season, so I feel for TWSS.

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
From: GM-namssor

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157471.24 in reply to 157471.22
Date: 9/22/2010 4:35:34 PM
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Yeah I mean SB's team is good, I don't mean to disrespect him or his team, I just thought the level and depth of my team's talent was quite superior. I put the game ratings into the NT database matchup simulator and I had a 93% win percentage haha. Stuff happens, I understand that. I guess I just don't understand offensive flow, because if it's passing-based, my team has plenty of that.

From: SM

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157471.25 in reply to 157471.24
Date: 9/22/2010 6:49:05 PM
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I do think the flow accounts for the amount of shots your guards took, the turnovers, and your big men’s shot selection, but there was definitely luck involved. My guards, in less that stellar form, shot over 40% from beyond the arc against that prominent 3-2 and Billingsley in proficient form, which wouldn’t happen if we played the same game twice. But, even with a 93% win chance, I’m still going to win 7 times out of 100.

From: Xtc

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157471.26 in reply to 157471.25
Date: 9/23/2010 4:01:02 AM
In your face
II.2
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But, even with a 93% win chance, I’m still going to win 7 times out of 100.


positive thinking!! my glass is half-full not half-empty
I'll aplly same thinking for my current matchup

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