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221990.16 in reply to 221990.13
Date: 7/22/2012 9:31:47 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking more that a good, well rounded SF has good JS/DR/IS, so that regardless of what type of defender is on him (a guard-like SF, or a big-like SF), he'll have a good shot to take.

Of course on defense, a good SF is gonna need both high OD and ID, to defend whomever he's matched up on.

Throw in the fact that good PA is important for all players, and you start to see why it's so hard to train well rounded SFs. They need just about every skill.


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221990.18 in reply to 221990.5
Date: 7/23/2012 4:13:35 AM
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Yes. This is the reason why SFs are hard to train. Not because it's difficult conceptually, but rather because it's tricky to find a way to win league games while still training guys out of position.

Still, the rarity of SFs means that if you can train your own, you'll have a mismatch and your team can gain a nice competitive advantage over other clubs with the same total salary space.


Very true. If I were you, I wqould buy some 7k complimentary playeers, and scrubs and stay in D5 for 6+ seasons. You can build up your arena, gain cash to buy better players, and eventually promote. Train your SF now, as you might not be able to do so in D4.

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221990.19 in reply to 221990.16
Date: 7/23/2012 9:19:06 AM
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Throw in the fact that good PA is important for all players, and you start to see why it's so hard to train well rounded SFs. They need just about every skill.


Yeah. Guards and big men are trained until they reach their skill targets. SFs are trained until they run out of time.

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221990.20 in reply to 221990.18
Date: 7/23/2012 9:23:20 AM
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Yes. This is the reason why SFs are hard to train. Not because it's difficult conceptually, but rather because it's tricky to find a way to win league games while still training guys out of position.

Still, the rarity of SFs means that if you can train your own, you'll have a mismatch and your team can gain a nice competitive advantage over other clubs with the same total salary space.


Very true. If I were you, I wqould buy some 7k complimentary playeers, and scrubs and stay in D5 for 6+ seasons. You can build up your arena, gain cash to buy better players, and eventually promote. Train your SF now, as you might not be able to do so in D4.


I wouldn't suggest intentionally staying down. Training guys out of position can be a challenge but it's not one that requires one to stay down and avoid competition altogether. Sometimes the experience you get trying to work your tactics around a known deficiency in your lineup can be great experience for trying to set tactics against teams with a player or two that simply outclass anyone on your roster.

Besides, if it were impossible to train players out of position in IV, I'd just recommend promoting to III since it seems to work fine here. (It's not easy by any stretch of the imagination, of course, but it can be done!)

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221990.21 in reply to 221990.20
Date: 7/24/2012 10:44:09 PM
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You can do just as much in D5. First of all, in D5, you can build up your arena to 7-10k, so you can be ready from teh get go when you promote or stay down, and handle better players while being able to afford. Secondly,training players out of position in D5 isn'ta big deal. There is about 10 bots in each D5 league (I think). And about 90% of bots don';t even have strong inside players at C/PF, or strong guards at PG/SG/SF positions. So you can still be competive, build up your arena, and tank to train players and gain money to buy players when you think your ready to promote and are done training that player. You can still test out your tactics. I'm just saying that in D5, it's easier to train, learn teh game on BB. I was in D5 for a while and built up my arena and trained players

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221990.22 in reply to 221990.21
Date: 7/25/2012 9:16:13 AM
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You can do just as much in D5. First of all, in D5, you can build up your arena to 7-10k, so you can be ready from teh get go when you promote or stay down, and handle better players while being able to afford. Secondly,training players out of position in D5 isn'ta big deal. There is about 10 bots in each D5 league (I think). And about 90% of bots don';t even have strong inside players at C/PF, or strong guards at PG/SG/SF positions. So you can still be competive, build up your arena, and tank to train players and gain money to buy players when you think your ready to promote and are done training that player. You can still test out your tactics. I'm just saying that in D5, it's easier to train, learn teh game on BB. I was in D5 for a while and built up my arena and trained players


Right, you can do all that in V, but if you can do all that and still promote then I'd prefer the promotion route.

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221990.23 in reply to 221990.22
Date: 7/25/2012 5:03:34 PM
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I'd want to stay back, you'd be more ready, and, you'd be able to afford a better roster.

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