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From: Isaiah

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Date: 4/2/2014 9:11:25 PM
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What is your assessment of our U21 program? Are any changes needed in the way that our U21 feeds in our NT?

What would a successful term look like to you?

What are your thoughts on Utopia?


1)In all honesty, I think we are headed towards better times. A Warrior took initiative this past season to get people training towards worlds for season 29 and we saw a great push of managers training. As for any changes, I think its all about excitement. I know magiker mentioned the amount of scouts we had was a big key to success in his tenure as U21 manager, which it was, but I believe it is the excitement that we have been missing lately. The NT offsite has been a little stale with the same 7 or 8 people in discussions. This includes the NT too. Since Jfarb and other top managers left we have been stagnant as a community and have lost the excitement to compete. This goes back to my previous post about getting Americans involved. Excitement in the NT will be a key to thriving U21 and NT.

2)as for a successful term, while I will be trying to win, my goal is to continue helping managers build players that are able to play in multiple offenses at a NT level, as well as liven up the offsite. I will turn into JFarb and threaten to CT everyone if it means getting people involved and on the offsite ;). And if you dont know who Jfarb was, he is one of the biggest reasons that the offsite has 769 members.

3) Utopia is great. Like magiker said, it means everyone can build more NT and U21 players. However, we wont see a huge impact on the NT level for a few seasons, but I think its something we need to further discuss on the offsite to begin training more players. Maybe make it the place to build U21 players for the time being ;)

Last edited by Isaiah at 4/2/2014 9:11:42 PM

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Date: 4/2/2014 10:03:48 PM
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What kind of rewards? And what does CT mean?

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Date: 4/2/2014 10:25:05 PM
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CT= Crunch Time

As for rewards, itll be much like the U21 competitions for best players created, but at a NT level. However, I would also like to develop a way to have other rewards as well to show appreciation to those that train the top players. Thats something that can be discussed on the NT offsite with everyone to see what the best way is to go about that. This is not something I can make promises about right now, but something I will work on.

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Date: 4/3/2014 11:01:51 AM
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CT = Vote For GODBEAR
WIN WORLDS? GODBEAR
WIN UNIVERSALS? GODBEAR


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Date: 4/3/2014 3:23:14 PM
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256373.21 in reply to 256373.18
Date: 4/3/2014 6:34:04 PM
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For both of you if you win, would you run a twitter page?

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Date: 4/3/2014 7:00:36 PM
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I could see that as a very viable option to get people involved.

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Date: 4/3/2014 7:57:13 PM
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For both of you if you win, would you run a twitter page?
I don't think so. There's a lot of effort that goes into this. On top of scouting opponents and leading a tactics/gameplanning discussion, I also keep track of over 100 prospects for the NT. I participate in discussions on the offsite, help with training plans, and even help some managers with their own scouting so they can promote and keep the guy their training. I can't imagine spending any extra time on a twitter page, especially since I don't thin it'll help at all. The offsite forum is a great place to get information and updates. If someone thinks it's a good idea, they can go for it.

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256373.24 in reply to 256373.21
Date: 4/3/2014 8:33:39 PM
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Here's what I'm thinking about the twitter page thing.

The idea is a good one when you think about it. Not only for the NT but also potentially to get more people signed up on BB.

I picture this twitter page being much like espn analysts on twitter. Give quick analysis of the team and games. Talk about "rumors" or who could be called up. Maybe also talk about the pipeline of players and who's rising on the pipeline and who is falling, based on Game shape issues, training, tactics, etc.

It'll be a place where people can stay up to date on the NT without looking through forums and Rosters.

The difficult thing will be getting people involved and following the twitter page. In theory I think it can be great, but if you don't have a fan base or a backing then it will fall off the map pretty quickly.

This is something that we can have a conversation about if you want or have ideas to make it better.

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256373.26 in reply to 256373.24
Date: 4/3/2014 9:41:37 PM
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I would for sure follow it, too hard to learn all the NT names as just a fan. You could also use it to inform us if a NT player is for sale so that one of us could buy him instead of someone we don't want buying him and firing him or not keeping his game shape up. I'm interested to see what you do if you win.

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