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Read the rule guide .


The game guides states aggressive players are real and it says they foul more often, We all know mass fouls on a certain player leads to injuries over time. Random or not the EGM, BB and Gm have stated these facts above. So to say they have not, shows you did read these things or thought out the process correctly concerning fouls and injuries.

Its still dishonest to sell injure prone players. For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it? I don't think you would, why try to sell it to the next man. You know its a bad apple. I said nothing about price or anyone free will . This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.

Its just dishonest in my perspective opinion, no one else has to agree.

Last edited by john otters at 10/28/2017 1:30:47 AM

For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it?

This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.

Don't know. Why would you?

The game guides states aggressive players are real and it says they foul more often, We all know mass fouls on a certain player leads to injuries over time.

The player committing the foul is not the one who gets injured. The downside of aggressive players is that they have a tendency to foul out, not get injured.

Random or not the EGM, BB and Gm have stated these facts above.

No, they haven't.

So to say they have not, shows you did read these things or thought out the process correctly concerning fouls and injuries.

Player A is aggressive and fouls Player B. Player B gets injured. Player A is aggressive and not injured. Player B is not aggressive and is injured. What do you not understand about this?

Its still dishonest to sell injure prone players. For example, If you know a apple is bad would you eat it? I don't think you would, why try to sell it to the next man. You know its a bad apple. I said nothing about price or anyone free will . This is not the real world, why bring up the real world argument for a video game.

Its just dishonest in my perspective opinion, no one else has to agree.

My team was probably the 5th-8th best in my league last season. We made the playoffs and then literally punched our way to the championship. So I bought someone else's "bad apples". No injuries. One trip to Division 2.

Aggressive player can injure themselves in games ,all payer can injure themselves. I don't see why your claiming they cannot. Please show data to back up your claim beyond your own team. Please Don't twist what I say, take it as read, not your opinion as said. Show long term BB data please.


Yes they have . Egm , Bb and gm have said aggressive players exists and foul and injure others more often , so you are wrong. Why would a BB, Gm, Egm lie to us in the matter. They have discussed the matter very thoroughly to be understood by all new and old alike on the forums. Your opinion is not the game guide, stop misleading new user like my self with your personal team accolade credentials.

Your story about your team success is irrelevant on the topic to my personal perspective opinion of what dishonest to me. Sorry to sound rude.

Last edited by john otters at 10/29/2017 8:03:08 PM

Yes they have . Egm , Bb and gm have said aggressive players exists and foul and injure others more often , so you are wrong. Why would a BB, Gm, Egm lie to us in the matter.

The only post I have ever seen from anyone who actually knows the GE in depth is from BB Charles.
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As far as the current injury system, basically every time that a player is involved in a physical collision in the game (almost always a foul), there is a chance that he will get injured. If he is injured, he is out for the game, and depending upon the doctor level, we'll assign him an injury length.

That doesn't say a player who fouls more will get injured more. The player who recieved the foul is just as likely to be injured as the player who committed the foul as they are both involved in the physical contact. EGM's and GM's don't have access to the game engine, so their views are as speculative as anyone else's. Unless Marin confirms an update in the injury system (which he won't) BB Charles' post has the most definitive information on how injuries work.

ok it's better if you stop with this. Everyone else but you is correct on this topic.

As they explained to you repeatedly, foul prone players exist and foul prone players are more likely to injure opponents. They however are not more likely to injure themselves. I have never seen an injured player not being on the receiving end of a foul in BB. You are welcome to look through the play-by-play/viewer and point out a player who got injured without being fouled first.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/30/2017 8:25:30 AM

Where your proof it says in the "all players can not be self injured on fouls"

this point of view also would apply to aggressive attempt to guard a player and get a injury. . Self injuries can happen because of poor game shape, bad training and many other factors that are random in game engine not out right random.

It does not have be fouling per say it can be in the act of aggression in guarding. From my reading from mangers on the topic.. Players can hurt themselves in guarding a player.. So your are incorrect in your saying. The egm and BB have explained everything correctly in the rule guide.

Why would you dispute this. Why would you dispute a Egm or BB words, they are closer to game engine and faq guide than anyone here long term or not. Yes its speculation, but its a honest speculation that make sense to game engine and all factors that apply with dealing with aggression and guarding a player oN BB. Every player can hurt themselves from guarding a player or not. Aggressive players apply to this as well.

Last edited by john otters at 10/30/2017 12:18:46 PM

Where your proof it says in the "all players can not be self injured on fouls"

528 play-by-play (176 EBBL regular season games for the last 3 seasons) plus viewer for well over half of all games in the last 15 seasons with 2 teams is enough for you?

In the 528 play-by-play there are more than 130 injuries, permanent and not, and they are all following a foul.

Self injuries can happen because of poor game shape, bad training and many other factors that are random in game engine not out right random.

Now who is misleading who? We know for a fact you need a foul to injure a player. Do you have any data to prove that you are more likely to get an injury if your players are in bad GS? Not even I have that kind of data.

Players can hurt themselves in guarding a player..

They can't. There is not a single example of what you're saying. Everybody is telling you, even Perpete who is a former BB, and you still refuse to listen.

So your are incorrect in your saying.

You have it the wrong way: we're all correct and you are wrong. You can keep going or you can just listen.

Why would you dispute this. Why would you dispute a Egm or BB words

Nobody has ever said what you claim. If you find the forum you keep referring to, you should link it here. Perpete who was a BB can also tell you nobody except for Marin and the original BBs have more insight in the GE than normal users. However, I could collect data on 1300 injuries instead of the 130 I have and still prove that every single one of them followed a foul. There is no need for this, since nobody disputes this except you.

No player in BB has ever been injured guarding a shot. None. I invite you to find a single example of that. 1 example against the 130 I already have. It should be easy, shouldn't it?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/30/2017 1:59:33 PM

Self injuries can happen because of poor game shape

If you truly believed that you wouldn't have 9 of your 11 players in poor game shape.

Yes its speculation, but its a honest speculation

The definition of the word 'speculate' is to form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence. Just because someone honestly speculates something, it doesn't mean they have any idea about the subject they are speculating about. You're a perfect example of the people who 'speculate' on forums with no idea what you're talking about, so how do you know your 'intensive 'reading' hasn't fed you misinformation? We don't know because you haven't linked a single comment or statement to suggest you're not just making stuff up.

You have a quote from a BB who created the game telling you are wrong. You have been told directly from a previous BB that you are wrong. You have been told by several people who have far more knowledge about the game than you that you are wrong. So to quote yourself, "Why would you dispute this?".

Last edited by Perriwinkle Blue at 10/30/2017 7:59:02 PM

Why insult my team in your point of view or me , what gives you the right to do so. Sir

Did I insult you in any fashion or your team in my rebuttals? I stayed within the rules and the facts of the conversation in kind manner.If you want to continue this conversation please be mature or I will ask a Gm to kindly ask you to refrain from being a ridiculing participator of others in your opinions to derail the thread in your own negativity of attitude.

Be kind on your wording . BB or a online game is not the place for this kind of un needed attitude of slander of any one character. I have the right to ask "how can you dispute this", if you claim to be a long time knowing manager. I have the right to ask for data in this dispute of speculation on the matter. I'm a new manager. Being a new manager gives me the right to ask you in a respectful manner prove what you say with data out of respect. Not disrespect.

BB's and Egm go by data in their saying of the facts of the forums in all issues, why cant you. Whats so wrong about asking others to prove it. Again,I'm a new manger I want the facts not just empty words in the wind or insults. If you do not know, then say so.It would be more respectful of the forums and the issue overall.

Last edited by john otters at 10/30/2017 9:00:31 PM