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323401.16 in reply to 323401.7
Date: 3/28/2024 11:00:43 AM
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Yeah I agree our draft this season was a bit too much, though it is a heavy outlier. I think it was a combination of the increase in 5/5 and luck on our end that gave us this draft. I'm not opposed to the number of ATGs being reduced, but I also would be very surprised if we ever have another draft in the USA remotely as good as this one.

I also don't think you can compare our number of all time greats in this draft to the number you get historically since this draft was buffed. We got 9 which is just a little more than 7x your 1, so our luck was only a little higher than yours this season.

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323401.17 in reply to 323401.16
Date: 3/28/2024 11:26:15 AM
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In fact to add to this I think we have to look at more than just this one draft. Looking back 10 drafts to season 54, Belgium has 4 All Time Greats (that are still active players). USA has 22 (including the 9 this season). While there is a chance some players have retired (though not common for any ATG), that means Belgium has been luckier than the USA! Now I don't think we've had 7x as many users this entire time, maybe more like x6 so it ends up looking about even. From that perspective this draft was just the USA catching up to Belgium in how many all time greats we get per user.

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323401.20 in reply to 323401.18
Date: 3/28/2024 12:00:12 PM
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Yes our luck is now a little higher than Spain or Italy after the last draft (when looking over 10 seasons). Here is 10 seasons of active ATG players now:

USA: 22
Spain: 21
Italy: 20


Since we are a little smaller in number of users this last draft put us ahead in luck over 10 seasons. However, if you look at S53 Spain had 6 all-time greats. Before this season our luck was much worse than them as Spain had 20, Italy had 19, and we had 13.

The fact is this draft is an outlier, but go ahead and try and use it to push your agenda. It would just be good if you tried to understand statistics a little better.

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323401.23 in reply to 323401.11
Date: 3/28/2024 6:40:34 PM
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Just dropping my 2¢ since I was the one who started this mayhem and I feel somewhat responsible...

I do not think the draft is unfair.

I do not think we need any more business logic changes. In fact I more or less dislike the recent ones but I can live with them.

All I meant to say is that I believe we need to have a lot less ATGs. I believe that not because of their higher potential cap but because of the fact that they are guaranteed superstars (in the right hands) right from the moment they start training.

I do not have any major problems with the algorithm. I do not see this as a functional defect. I see it as purely a cosmetic issue. All I would change is the threshold at which a player is visualized as ATG. If it is 10.95 now, I would make it 10.98 or 10.99. That's all!



Last edited by mink0ff at 3/28/2024 7:03:23 PM

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