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From: Wagner

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Date: 6/29/2025 2:47:12 PM
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Progress of match organizing process, updateable team list for Season 2:

Wagner College *GTG*

Les Gueux du Marais *GTG*

Elan Demars *GTG*

BC Eos *GTG*

Swan River Serpents *GTG*

Buckner Bandits *Buckner Bandits dismissed from Season 2, Swan River Serpents replaces BUC. Please don't send PU match challenges to BUC, but instead send challenge to SRS (Swan River Serpents) on the same day when you were supposed to play against BUC!*

Madrid Chotis *GTG*

WiMaOlca ****Please note****: Publishing of box score post likely expected to be "on last minute"/just prior to Season 2, but WiMaOlCa will normally send and accept match challenges for Season. EDIT: All matches organized despite box score post not yet published; will be published July 14th. *

Rajdersi *GTG*

Santa Eufemia Ducks *Santa Eufemia Ducks will withdraw from Season 2, please don't send PU match challenges to SED. Freccia Azzurra (FRE) replaces SED.*

Freccia Azzurra *GTG*

Hårdboll *GTG*

Lielupes Melnas Sirdis *GTG*

Suuret Muinaiset *GTG*

Virtus Portici *GTG*

Svätý Jur Snakers *GTG*

KK Stihija *GTG*

Club Trouville *GTG*


Abbreviations used on the table above:
(BP:OK)= own box score post for Season 2 created
S2S:OK= season 2 schedule; all match links sent to own box score post (which are not yet verified by Commissioner)
*GTG*= team good to go for Season 2, because all above done, plus league Commissioner has confirmed/verified that match days and times are correct.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/13/2025 6:16:23 PM

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/30/2025 10:10:37 AM
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@ all HGL managers:

Like some of you may have noticed, Santa Eufemia Ducks has decided to withdraw from Season 2 of HGL due to intention of becoming non-HGL eligible team in the future.

While timing of this announcement is definitely not optimal due to match organization process being in progress and league schedule locked in place, it's still better this way around (than if team would just become non-HG team without announcing that and without withdrawing/resigning from HGL first, which he luckily did).

Therefore please do not send Santa Eufemia Ducks PU match challenges if league schedule says you are responsible for doing that during Season 2.

This announcement leaves us with two options:
1. Continue with 15 teams and play with partly crippled schedule, meaning that every week one of us managers doesn't play. That would leave us with 14 matches each, after 15 weeks of play.

2. Another option, which I would favor (and have already sent a BBMail to see if that'd be possible) is to add 16th team to replace Santa Eufemia Ducks for Season 2.

If any other home-grown team (than the one contacted by BBMail) wants to join for Season 2 with such a short notice, I'm all ears, because we are pressed in time.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/30/2025 10:21:12 AM

From: MrJ

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Date: 7/1/2025 12:46:09 AM
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I will if need be, Wagner. However, I have no tokens.

So, would have to set games starting next Monday when I receive 2 again...then set upcoming games 2 weeks in advance at first, then a week in advance going forward using 1 token per week (I am using the other this season). If that is acceptable, I can play.


EDIT: I literally just used all of mine to do some tactics testing. Bad timing. But as a Supporter, I get 2 tokens each week.

Last edited by MrJ at 7/1/2025 1:30:31 AM

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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 7/1/2025 6:46:14 AM
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I will if need be, Wagner. However, I have no tokens.

So, would have to set games starting next Monday when I receive 2 again...then set upcoming games 2 weeks in advance at first, then a week in advance going forward using 1 token per week (I am using the other this season). If that is acceptable, I can play.


EDIT: I literally just used all of mine to do some tactics testing. Bad timing. But as a Supporter, I get 2 tokens each week.

Thanks for your quick response, MrJ. That would be also a very good option. You know the drills of HGL and are also a very active manager, so I already know adding your team wouldn't cause any challenges.

And I suppose we could even consider in this exceptional case that we´d change the match challenging responsibilities in the schedule, so that you wouldn't have many challenging responsibilities.

However, I don´t know if you checked the schedule for Season 2 already, but naturally your team had been removed from the schedule for Season 2, and other team replaced you. Now that SED was withdrawn from Season 2, you would actually replace SED in schedule.

What makes this something worth noting is the fact that SED actually wasn't one of the challenging volunteers for Season 1, so he has only 3 challenging obligations for the whole season (Rounds 2, 4 and 13), so token usage for the Season 2 would be minimal for any team that might replace SED.

Having said that, I had already just recently sent one invitation to HGL Season 2 to one team (which was practically our only hope in being able to add 16th team to Season 2, before you responded), into which I still until now haven´t received a final reply/decision from this team.

So if you don't mind, I'd like to wait for little bit more to make the call, to give him little bit time to think about it (and to honor the order in which I´ve asked for teams to join) if that´s ok for you, and you´d be still willing to join if he decides not to join for HGL Season 2?

Last edited by Wagner at 7/1/2025 6:46:43 AM

From: MrJ

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Date: 7/1/2025 9:31:11 AM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere

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Date: 7/1/2025 12:20:18 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere


Nice

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/1/2025 8:00:15 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere B)

Thank you. I sent you BBMail. :)

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Date: 7/2/2025 7:46:10 PM
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No worries, Wagner.

If he can't do it, then I'm happy to replace SED.

Wait as long as you need...I'm not going anywhere B)


Good news after withdrawal news, meaning that I'm happy to welcome Freccia Azzurra from Italy to HGL Season 2!

With his Top8 player salaries of $213K, manager ned will surely do all he can to bring FRE to playoffs on his first ever HGL season - and with that, we're also being able to add one more country with more than 1 participant.
So maybe in couple of seasons someone will even be creating a series of league tables of local rivalries (taking into account only matches between those teams on each small "rivalry league table").

Anyway, as we got our 16th team confirmed, we're now ready to proceed organizing matches with Freccia Azzurra (team abbreviation FRE in schedule), as I just updated the schedule (replaced SED with FRE on all 15 Regular Season Rounds).

Also as a reminder, you can now also organize the final match of the Regular Season if you haven't yet done so, as that wasn't still possible when we started the process (as PU match invites can only be sent 2 calendar months ahead).

Last edited by Wagner at 7/2/2025 7:51:27 PM

From: Wagner

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@ Buckner Bandits/T-Lit, and possibly also to others whose pre-season work for Season 2 isn't close to being finished (including making your own box score post for Season 2, which needs to be published and filled well before Season 2 startsso that I can verify all matches prior to S2 beginning):

T-Lit, due to not reaching you by BBMail, I'll also send message on official threads, because if we don't act soon, we'll be pressed in time to get Season 2 started on time.

So, match organizing process for HGL Season 2 is in progress, so please proceed with sending PU match invitations and accept correct match requests made to you, thank you.

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/4/2025 2:00:53 PM
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Reminders sent by BBMail to all that still haven't sent their season 2 box score posts to Scores Thread.

Also sent another reminder to T-Lit (who hasn't been logged in though after 2nd of July).

From: Wagner

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Also sent another reminder to T-Lit (who hasn't been logged in though after 2nd of July).

Still the same situation with T-Lit/Buckner Bandits, no logins since 2nd July.

However. like mentioned earlier, he has logged in several times before that after receiving multiple BBMails from me and contacts/questions on official threads from me, so he had plenty of opportunities to answer my (or many of yours BBMails/possibly discord messages, if you've sent any) contact attempts, and/or accept and send match offers for Season 2.

Buckner Bandits has only very little time to respond, before we need to proceed by excluding him from Season 2.

Even if he would show up at the last minute (likely "during Sunday EET time" might be the suitable ultimate limit)
, this is a good situation to use as an example. I have absolutely zero intention to try to shame anyone by saying this, but as this sort of things are causing extra work that is really essentially totally wasted time that could've used for essential tasks (and for RL things), I ask every participating manager to not do these kind of things (withdraw from league by ghosting/quitting keeping in touch and not doing their HGL routines during season and pre-season).

As said it always causes more work, and not just to me (although most to me of course) but to all managers who can't organize their matches as soon as expected, and need to remember to do that on time, which eventually leads to the situation where I have to worry about that if they have actually remembered to do that and if not, send reminders, etc. before we can even proceed to the phase where I can start verifying the whole schedule.

Sure, I understand 100% that people can get busy, that's life.
But when you play in such manually organized league (HGL), I think it's reasonable to expect managers to understand and remember (that's also mentioned in HGL rules/guide) there is going to be some amount of official contacts on official threads and possibly by BBMail, and response to those contacts is mandatory in some occassions.
But this isn´t decisive problem with BUC, I mean if he would've just done all things that he's supposed to do and not respond to my contacts, I would've accepted it this time and he could continue normally to Season 2 (but as we know, that hasn't been the case). Having said that, that certainly not something anyone should do though (quit being in contact with league Commissioner). Just as an example, basically no one of us could know if he would've only forgot to respond or had very hectic time in his life, or didn't want to use 12 tokens for S2, etc., but we couldn't ever know without communication.

And we won't change the whole league schedule now due to one team not willing to follow the procedures and need to secure our off-season timetable (we have 8 days until Season 2 starts and whole round of matches to be organized!).

So what can we take out of this? Please set reminders/alarms to yourself to the critical phases of the season, so that you remember to check official thread and your BBmail.

As a positive note and as a positive example, WiMaOlCa did this well this season, considering the situation: He knew it's going to be very hard for him to be well available during the match organization process, so he let me (and us) know on official thread about that. He is, however, taking time to organize matches, and while he hasn't had enough time to create box score post, he has also let me know about the situation and kept in contact (while being busy) and will release his box score post also as soon as possible (of which he has already given me a rough estimation).

Staying in regular contact, letting each other know of things in advance if possible, and negotiating if necessary, are the keys here, just as in so many things in life.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/6/2025 8:00:26 AM

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