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From: Fwinns

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327722.16 in reply to 327722.14
Date: 7/11/2025 6:32:56 AM
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The main issue here is that most guys that train NT players also compete in D1, it's hard to do that when you're training 3 players, even two before they are 28-29yo. We don't have many tanking teams dedicated to NT training, if any. I myself tried that multiple times in the past, but always get caught in the easy d2 promotion

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Date: 7/11/2025 7:54:04 AM
Corntucky Mildcats
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Winchester Crows
I enjoy the ISO tactics. They have replaced patient for me the cast majority of the time. I enjoy testing them both in PU games with as few variables as possible.

I think they have flexibility but BOTH still need a good SG. You'd be surprised how many shots a SG will get running inside ISO. My theory is it has to do with getting a hot rock. Aka forcing a shot attempt late in the shot clock.

I also think a SF with high IS can exploit the tactic to a decent degree. Especially to counter the 3-2 meta. Opposing SF can have high ID, but many don't.

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327722.18 in reply to 327722.9
Date: 7/11/2025 7:58:32 AM
Corntucky Mildcats
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My plan is to post private YouTube videos where I discuss the state of the NT and answer community questions.

Along with the usual BBmail weekly updates forums and discord stuff.

I also plan on encouraging a referral challenge. One must always be thinking long term/beyond their contract. The more users Canada has, the better.

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327722.19 in reply to 327722.15
Date: 7/11/2025 8:39:49 AM
Pszczyna Team
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Probably not many, but as NT manager I used to get bb-mails from managers about their players, how they stack up against others, etc. So I simply replied that I am going to be posting the rankings on the forums.
BB-mail was used as a way to get people to the forums, and once they are there, and the activity rises because of it, it is kind of self-sustaining thing as it slowly drags more people in.

That's the issue imho with being Canada NT. We need somebody who will do much more than would normally be expected from the NT manager. THat's why I am not a candidate - don't have time for it all, but happy to help whoever is elected.
So for all candidates: if you aren't willing to go quite far and beyond what needs to be done in 'standard' NT job - please select a different country. I think youtube might be a bit of an overkill, unless you are an algorithmic wizard able to bring people from outside of the game, but that's the sort of enthusiasm and commitment we need overall.

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From: CoachP
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327722.21 in reply to 327722.19
Date: 7/11/2025 9:17:04 AM
Corntucky Mildcats
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I don't need YT to bring in anyone. I just like it as a more personal way to engage with the community. It's more enjoyable for users and weirdly less time intensive for me than bbmail spam.

There is this crux though. One I keep going back to.

Candidates all think they can do the best job. Good, fine. But once they hold the belt, they often try to prove to themselves they can, and sure they will get help from locals, who have helped others before. And sure, they may have an assistant even, who helps where and there.

But what I want to implement would be closer to a triumvirate.

3 managers all checking their egos at the door and working together. No, the work won't be exactly equal. That's impossible, but the right team can make it work, and by doing that, they can go far and beyond what one coach could.

And with 3, there's is never a split vote, on anything.

I already know what your thinking, "this won't work, there will be drama". But I am not interested in defeatists mindsets. Not in 2025. BB is where we all go to escape. I bring immaculate vibes with me when I enter, and you should too.

So I want every other candidate to know, I am willing to help you with whatever you need if you win. No job is too monotonous. I don't need my name on a page to know I put in work. The work is the reward.


From: Fwinns

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327722.22 in reply to 327722.21
Date: 7/11/2025 10:14:52 AM
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The biggest trouble with that is that a big chunk of the work, scouting, can only be done by the coach. I've done that several times, scouting all canadian players available (and I mean all!). I takes a good week, but I still have spreadsheets from way back.
After the scouting bit, yes a trio of managers will definitely work, discussing game strategies, coming up with training plans and following up with managers... It helps having more than one set of eyes and different game experiences or ways of thinking. But that's not the most time-consuming part of the job. I don't think Canada ever had a "formal" coach team for either NT with clearly assigned roles, but I've been pretty involved in strategies and training discussions with the past 2 U21 coaches, so this teaming up naturally happens even though it's not visible or official

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327722.24 in reply to 327722.23
Date: 7/11/2025 10:53:38 AM
Pszczyna Team
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Yeah, the choice will be tricky, but with current manager dropping the ball, I am excited to see what someone else can do!

Among the candidates, who would be willing to be part of the team, even if elections don't go your way?

From: Lo Gun

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327722.25 in reply to 327722.16
Date: 7/11/2025 11:28:50 AM
RGUNS
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I know its difficult to keep 3 players with 200K salary but 2 is fairly easy with D1 income and its beneficial to the manager but its just take times. But my point is we actually dont need new managers to come in. Just few committed managers who are willing to train the NT players with right training method can change the dynamic.

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327722.26 in reply to 327722.24
Date: 7/11/2025 12:00:42 PM
V.A.W.T.
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well I'm already doing that, so keep counting me in

Edit: that's 2 seasons in a row with a real election debate, that's great!

Last edited by Fwinns at 7/11/2025 12:06:40 PM

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