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93473.16 in reply to 93473.1
Date: 6/5/2009 7:12:16 PM
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Everyone Feel free to ask any questions because I'm also running for the National Team Manager

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93473.17 in reply to 93473.14
Date: 6/5/2009 11:36:14 PM
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Well reading has helped me here as I know the game engine has changed for this season so I have used it just as much as you :P

Comparing playing this game to climbing Mount Everest has no relevance at all. To climb a mountain you do need experience but this game is more about knowledge than experience, after all its all about strategy and nothing else.

And anyway, a question directed at you. Why so much interest in the NZ NT? And why do you not try the USA NT?

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93473.18 in reply to 93473.17
Date: 6/6/2009 1:52:02 AM
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The game engine changes for Season 9 won't be a huge factor, since it's already been implemented for scrimmages and Private League games in Season 8, and I haven't noticed a real effect on things at the high level of my club team (with stats like the NZ NT players).

This game's not about experience? In the past I've played my starters too much (ruining game shape), played the wrong Coach's tactics, scouted opponents poorly, raised my arena ticket prices way too high for too long, bought too many young trainees and didn't realize they'd never all get enough playing (training) minutes, trained older players for too long with no benefit, etc etc...I've learned from all of these mistakes and it won't happen again. This has made me a better manager, economically and strategically.

As for why NZ and not the US, the US NT is managed by GM-JuicePats (who has offered any advice I may need), who has been the manager since the very beginning, and with the amazing success of the team (reached the World Semifinals this year, lost by 2), I fully support him and have no reason to run against him.

I absolutely love BB with a passion (I mean I'm writing this at 1:53 am local time!), ever since I started playing way back when, and I want to spread the awesomeness of BB to a country who has the potential to grow and become great. You guys have the makings of a great community, I mean look how much interest this thread has generated! And it's only the beginning. Most people would've run off and tried another country after I lost the U-21 election, but I didn't. Especially after chatting with hoddy and colesy throughout the season, I know you're all good people with the willingness to lay the foundation for the future. I have faith in NZ!

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93473.19 in reply to 93473.18
Date: 6/6/2009 2:55:59 AM
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This game's not about experience? In the past I've played my starters too much (ruining game shape), played the wrong Coach's tactics, scouted opponents poorly, raised my arena ticket prices way too high for too long, bought too many young trainees and didn't realize they'd never all get enough playing (training) minutes, trained older players for too long with no benefit, etc etc...I've learned from all of these mistakes and it won't happen again. This has made me a better manager, economically and strategically.

Everything you have said there I know about and have read about in the forums/help section so I probably know just about as much as you on the subjects. Experiencing it isn't as important if I know what not to do, so I won't make those silly mistakes! It's all about knowledge as the experience won't change from player to player. The game works the same for everyone so learning from other people's experiences is just as good :D

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93473.21 in reply to 93473.19
Date: 6/6/2009 2:07:27 PM
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Everything you have said there I know about and have read about in the forums/help section so I probably know just about as much as you on the subjects. Experiencing it isn't as important if I know what not to do, so I won't make those silly mistakes!


I can guarantee you will make those same mistakes, and that's no disrespect at you, we all do when we're learning something new to us. The season is very long and very dynamic; things change all the time (injuries, new transfers, ENTHUSIASM, etc) and you've yet to experience any of that.

It's all about knowledge as the experience won't change from player to player. The game works the same for everyone so learning from other people's experiences is just as good


I TOTALLY disagree. Every team, every player, every opponent, is different. My club's situation is light years different from yours. These things do not translate. You must experience them on your own.

I know I'd rather have my NT manager rely on his own training/roster/enthusiasm experiences than based on whatever some dummy types his opinion (right or wrong) in the Global forum.

From: SammyD

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93473.22 in reply to 93473.20
Date: 6/6/2009 7:20:33 PM
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Why play 3-2 Zone against NC Cardinals when they ALWAYS play Run and Gun? Surely 1-3-1 would be a better option?

My rebounding is bad enough without making it worse :P Please don't comment on my tactics when you don't know my team at all :P If you look at his roster compared to mine I didn't have much of a chance no matter what I did.

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93473.23 in reply to 93473.11
Date: 6/6/2009 9:35:19 PM
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Buttsy, I appreciate your concerns about me not being a native. I absolutely understand. However, I have to respectfully ask you: so what? What difference does it make? Don't you want the best manager your nation can have?


No sorry nassor, i would in fact prefer the best Kiwi manager my nation could have not the best manger. If we elect a non-kiwi everytime how are New Zealand managers supposed to grow and experience NT management first hand? as you point out relying on peoples dumb opinion from posts is not always as good as experiencing it first hand, therefore Sammy manageing the NT is of more benefit for NZ in the long run than a foreign manager.

Plus i have personal experience dealing with Sammy and he has shared his self made spreadsheet with me and i highly approve of it's benefits and results.

He is 110% committed to this game and know he will dedicate a ridiculous amount of his daily life to making our NT great if he wins this election.

For these reasons i cast my vote, and i do appreciate your position and pedigree but alas my vote will lie elsewhere in this election.

Last edited by Buttsy at 6/6/2009 9:36:02 PM

From: colesy
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93473.25 in reply to 93473.17
Date: 6/7/2009 3:23:38 AM
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hey guys ....

Ive gotta put my 2 cents in here... i think at the stage we are at in terms of a NT namssor is by far the best man for the job by the looks of things he has been pretty active her in helping me as the U21 coach and i think his experience is exactly what we need at this stage

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93473.26 in reply to 93473.25
Date: 6/7/2009 4:54:27 AM
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I have been following both the NT and u21 NT for the last couple of seasons and I honestly believe that being manager of the NT is not the best way for NZ managers to gain experience. Maybe in a few seasons SammyD might be able to do a good job for us but at the moment the most effective way of developing NZ players and moving the team up the rankings is to have an experienced quality coach like namssor at the helm. To be fair about the issue aswell i think SammyD is extremely under qualified and if we were to go for a Kiwi as a coach this should be someone of far more experience thats played a few seasons in a higher division.


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