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that's not necessarily true for all teams.

I have a level 3 PR and doctor, who are both on 11k per week.

There seem to be a number of level 3 guys out there in those positions with wages closer to 7k, meaning if I can pick one up cheaply, I might as well...

that's not necessarily true for all teams.

I have a level 3 PR and doctor, who are both on 11k per week.

There seem to be a number of level 3 guys out there in those positions with wages closer to 7k, meaning if I can pick one up cheaply, I might as well...

That's if what you pay for him doesn't eat up the difference in weekly salary over the term of his employment with your team.

30 weeks (as BB says) with 5k salary reduction gives you a lot of cash to spend on a replacement ;)

exactly.

If I can pay (eg) 20k, and get a player who will save me roughly 2k per week, he'll have paid for himself in 10 weeks.

Seeing as it looks like we'll expect to keep a player for 2 seasons or so, that's a deal worth making.

exactly.

If I can pay (eg) 20k, and get a player who will save me roughly 2k per week, he'll have paid for himself in 10 weeks.

Seeing as it looks like we'll expect to keep a player for 2 seasons or so, that's a deal worth making.

I'd say so, those numbers work and that's good management.

Whether a player is over their potential cap or not, their training pace will be increased if they are working with a higher level trainer. There is nothing special about a level 6 trainer, he is simply a bit more effective than a level 5, and a bit less than a level 7.

So u r saying that player skills will grow faster with new staff (lvl 6 or 7) than with staff 5? That is good but now I have some SERIOUS questions

1) Everybody suggests for us to wait for some period of time and than to c if the market prices drop. What happens in the meantime? Rich clubs will grab the new staff => New staff will increase players skills more => players will be better and more valuable => rich clubs will be stronger and richer !!! How about that
2) Who can guarantee that the prices will drop? Is there a logic "more staff in market produces lower prices" ? But what about new managers in market? What will that produce ??
3) There are staff with the same level but different salaries. So the the low budget teams will have to acquire staff with higher salaries and that means more budget deficit . Once again, rich teams get the glory other can declare bankruptcy.

Beside all of this, changes are good but not so good to everyone obviously

Regards
Nemanja

Last edited by LA-popeye91 at 10/13/2008 11:29:07 AM

1) Indeed, rich clubs will pick up all the new expensive staff, and they will have paid way too much for them. So in fact they are losing money there...
2) They will: there is no reason why a level 5 trainer should cost 150k if he doesn't pay it back in salary over a span of time (that is if everybody who wants a lvl 5 trainer has 1). Already there are lvl 5 trainers due this evening who are still under 10k.
3) It will be paid back in market price: the higher the salary, the cheaper they will be to purchase. The lower the salary, the more they will cost to sign.

I agree with points 2 and 3, assuming that managers behave rationally! For the first few weeks, this won't be the case, but I expect that most competent managers will develop their own formulas for how much to pay for staff (eg salary saving x 15 = max. buying price)

How quickly this will happen, I really don't know.

The concern for me is the speeded up training caused by an influx of top level trainer, and how this will possibly unbalance the game in the favour of the already wealthy teams.

If the level 6 or 7 trainers are as worthwhile as they initially seem, we definitely seem to be headed towards a 'rich get richer' scenario, which is a long term disaster for the game.

1) Indeed, rich clubs will pick up all the new expensive staff, and they will have paid way too much for them. So in fact they are losing money there...
2) They will: there is no reason why a level 5 trainer should cost 150k if he doesn't pay it back in salary over a span of time (that is if everybody who wants a lvl 5 trainer has 1). Already there are lvl 5 trainers due this evening who are still under 10k.
3) It will be paid back in market price: the higher the salary, the cheaper they will be to purchase. The lower the salary, the more they will cost to sign.

1) Where do the rich teams loose the money? For a signing fee ? Come one ... Give 10M $ and I will buy the 7 lvl trainer because players will get more SKILLS ... Anyway, your argument stands but I'm not speaking about the current time.

True, if you have 10M $ to spent... But you will end up having a weekly negative income (the salary is much higher and I believe it will rise faster then a lvl 5), and training will be slower for top teams with a level 7 trainer then for beginners with a level 5 trainers (IMO): The players that they need to stay at that level are already highly developed and starting to hit the training soft cap. Add to that that they are older (even slower training) and have higher salaries, and hopefully you will see that it ain't easy for teams at the top to keep an edge...

But it all comes down to this: what are you willing to pay for lvl X staff member?

Say, you think a lvl 5 trainer is worth 30k/week (probably a somewhat high estimate, but the market will decide) and his weekly salary will rise with 1,8%/week. If you are able to get a trainer with 18k/week salary you will be able to keep him for 29 weeks before his salary will pass the 30k/week mark (you could keep him even longer, but then you would have to have payed much less then the number we are getting at). In that 29 weeks you would have been able to save 162k (which you didn't pay because you trainer didn't ask 30k salary every week), and that would have been a fair price to pay him to start with... All the numbers are fictional, but I hope you get my point. Somewhere there will be an average price for each level, we just have to find out where... :)