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i never heard any team with a big arena cry about these issues. so if you cant compete on the market maybe just accept that you chose the wrong strategy and now you have to live with the consequences and build your arena and maybe risk to go to Div II. to be competitive in the long run.

We was trying to make a constructive discussion,now arrive the usual boring person
to to make the braggart and say"you chose the wrong strategy,ahahah"
and the boldfaced phrase is really really stupid

no i just see it from a unemotional point of view.

thats just the way it is. i dont have such a big arena myself and i am angry at myself that i didnt build a bigger one.

but if you compare to a real world company, if you picked the wrong strategy you cant go to the goverment and say. Hey i cant survive please make my strategy the best.

In my opinion you just have to accept the facts and try to do the best out of it.

could you please stop?

i mean both

20,000 seats is not a big arena?in the real world the greatest basketball arenas have this size...
@mark lenders:i don't say nothing of personal,we was maing a discussion and he wrote a post with any utility in this thread

I thought we were having a pretty good discussion myself. I guess I shouldnt have used the Italians as an example, again I only did because they are the biggest.

I will never understand why someone complains about the point of a post, and then proceeds to trash the discussion. Personally I see no need to be rude, especially on an international level. Saying that an entire country messed up is rude, sorry Badgirl.

The point of this post for me is to help me learn and understand the game better from all angles, and to share my perspective as well. Plenty of other posts.

I see your point that New teams from small team based countries are farther behind thier competition than a new team from say Poland who start in a lower comparable division. However again, I'd gladly switch places with them. They dont have to really worry about relegation as there isnt anywhere to go. They too can build thier arena very fast without having to actually compete (at first) and they start out making DI money. Heck, if they plan it right they can bounce between DI and DII (mostly bots) a couple times and gain the big bonus money too. Someone from Italy pointed out that in order to build up his arena, he will fall behind on talent and be relagated, where he may never return. Teams from very small countries dont have this worry.

I guess I shouldnt have used the Italians as an example, again I only did because they are the biggest.

actually spain has much more users than italy
they never post here, maybe we could find them in the global(spanish) forum

20,000 seats is not a big arena?in the real world the greatest basketball arenas have this size...
@mark lenders:i don't say nothing of personal,we was maing a discussion and he wrote a post with any utility in this thread

when you look at her prices, you had to accept that this are small arenas in BB. Remember the stadard prices and the price range the BB give us.

In reality the seats are much more expensiv, and you had to build an new arena when you like 1000 extra seats, and you normaly can npt sell the old one ;) So maybe a bit unrealizm must be accepted.

but if you compare to a real world company, if you picked the wrong strategy you cant go to the goverment and say. Hey i cant survive please make my strategy the best.

Actually you can, these days.
;-)

ok,but i would to know what's the limit for filing arenas...

we will see it in future, but think about it, that additional building up always bringst less ...

So when you build up from 10 to 20k you maybe get 20-30% More profit, if you like to the increase the income now with the same amount you have to build lot more then those 10k seats.

can i make the italian with another point of wiew???? so we show that italian don't speak with a unic voiceDD

i don't think that problem is arena's size or better we must see this in a global way

improve the arena's size is a game strategy so we don't must penalize this.
If you remember when bbs introduced the changes on tv money i saied that musted improve arena on italian forum and a lot of people answerd to me like in this tread but someone like mark make this. i.e. i have 8000 seats in III

the problem is risk to abuse of this strategy. Now i can make also an arena of 300.000 seats for 30.000 fan weekly and this because i don't pay for this....

for me we must put a some tipe of tax about arenas but we must loking for the best tipe of tax beacuse we don't must penalize the arena strategy but strong to stop abuse of it

i hope the you can understand me that my english it not so good to explein this thinkig in good way