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206866.169 in reply to 206866.168
Date: 3/9/2012 4:40:28 PM
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In my first season here on BB i did no tknow what team was a bot team and what team that had a human manager. And i think the joy of actually winning games was bigger then anything else. If i were to end up in a league with a lot of strong teams with no chance of winning more then 1-2 games in a season i think i would have given up after not to long.
The ones stuck in the D.2 in japan wont actually see any benefits from this suggestion to more then the possibility of a larger community.
You did not answer anything that had been brought.
1) The BOT teams are just awful, and one will win them easily and without any match, and hence will not enjoy it.
2) After a single season he will get to the same division that he would be playing w/o this suggestion - divisions 2.
There, he will find the same competitiveness problem and (as currently happens) will leave the game.

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206866.174 in reply to 206866.171
Date: 3/9/2012 5:43:54 PM
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1) And in the same way that bots are awfully bad the teams in D.2 are awfully good compared to what you get when you start. And winning is always more fun then losing. No matter how bad the competition is. When one does not know better one will enjoy beating bot teams.
An easy game is something that no one will play.
A too hard game is something that will get some tryouts, because beating a hard game is fun.
But, an impossible game (due to luck of competitiveness) is something that will not grow - as happens to this game, who is stuck on 50K users, although very good features it has.

2) After that first season they will have a somewhat higher spirit from bashing bots all season long and has gotten attached to the game a bit more and maybe then wont see losses as such a hopeless thing. They may have invested enough time in the game so that they have gotten hooked and will stay and see their team grow.
They will get into a wall, and understand that there is no chance crossing it. The same as it happens now.

There is also 4 D.2 leagues so the competition in the different leagues will be more even then it is today.
Not relevant, as spreading the new users between all 4 D-2 leagues is something that can be done today w/o all the other not-relevant suggestion of using D-3 division.
Again - the spreading suggestion as nothing to do with the Div-3 suggestion.
The only connection between them is that they will not change a thing about the community size at those micro-nations.
In addition - in case they get even, they will still find that each season there are a bunch of users that are much stronger due to long time at this game where they kept piling up assets, and they will... leave the game.
This has proofs - In case it was not the case, other nation, that are not micro-nations, would have grown and not just kept their size or even get smaller.

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206866.175 in reply to 206866.172
Date: 3/9/2012 5:48:13 PM
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I dont know where this "new teams start in Div III"-idea comes from, I believe I made the first suggestion that proposed to put new teams in the lowest possible league, in small countries this would mean Div V or maybe IV.

That would give teams in Austria (starting in Div V), at least one full season of bot-bashing, before playing against few human teams while still having a couple of bots in the league.

When I started the game I was going up and down between Div II, where I got slaughtered and Div III, where I had happy times of easy training and winning easily. Those easy seasons definitely saved me from quitting. Even if you have the "bonus" of starting in a higher league, it takes you at least three full seasons to develop stadium and roster to close the gap and turn your swag on.

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206866.176 in reply to 206866.175
Date: 3/9/2012 5:54:10 PM
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I dont know where this "new teams start in Div III"-idea comes from, I believe I made the first suggestion that proposed to put new teams in the lowest possible league, in small countries this would mean Div V or maybe IV.

That would give teams in Austria (starting in Div V), at least one full season of bot-bashing, before playing against few human teams while still having a couple of bots in the league.

When I started the game I was going up and down between Div II, where I got slaughtered and Div III, where I had happy times of easy training and winning easily. Those easy seasons definitely saved me from quitting. Even if you have the "bonus" of starting in a higher league, it takes you at least three full seasons to develop stadium and roster to close the gap and turn your swag on.
Let's make it simple - in which division (upon current status) will Japan new users will start from?

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