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11294.17 in reply to 11294.16
Date: 1/3/2008 10:23:41 AM
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There are so many variables (i.e. skills) for each player that having a meaningful Transfer Compare is pretty much impossible.

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11294.18 in reply to 11294.16
Date: 1/3/2008 10:35:40 AM
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i disagree about the meaningful price........with playoff deadlines.. influx of new managers - some weeks lots of Free Agents the next week very few.... if your team has just had a decent weeks revenue and you have an injury - prices can fluctuate...

getting around to dealing with cheats it is fine and i appreciate the commitments that are needed all over the game..

it would be nice to see the players in question that have been bought with the dodgy money re-entering the TL - this would convince me the matter has been dealt with.... i dont think everyone should be banned but severe deduction in cash (if they still have any) and at least a season transfer embargo should be the minimum with the player bought returned to the roster....

out of interest how long from filing a cheat report at the moment does it take to investigate?

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11294.19 in reply to 11294.18
Date: 1/3/2008 11:01:19 AM
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out of interest how long from filing a cheat report at the moment does it take to investigate?



this should be prety instantly, if they have not enough GMs to be able to react imediatly, they should assign more GMs.
I feel that cheaters are a bigger treath to the game than bugs and features... they should get top priority.

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11294.20 in reply to 11294.17
Date: 1/3/2008 3:51:43 PM
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outbid a gm with dirty money, ;)

i got an idea with that statistic maybe you dont need it to do with skills, just an statistik
like top5 weekly transferstat for centers/pg/sf/pf/sf that would be nice not just for cheating issues also to get a little overview for prices (top-players) at the moment, which would be very interesting to see.

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11294.21 in reply to 11294.20
Date: 1/3/2008 4:03:13 PM
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Unless i am wrong,you can only create accounts in your own country.So players tha are cheating are actually saling low wage players to the same teams from their own country for extraordinary prices.I think the only punishment should be instant deletion.I realize tha the game needs to build up its users database but i strongly believe that cheaters have no place in this game.They can only harm it.

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11294.22 in reply to 11294.18
Date: 1/3/2008 4:23:05 PM
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The players on teams that are banned for cheating are put on the TL once that team goes inactive. It doesn't happen right away just in case a mistake was made and the team wasn't actually cheating.

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11294.23 in reply to 11294.22
Date: 1/3/2008 5:01:55 PM
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ok... is banning the only punishment ie. they are guilty or they are not? is it as clear cut as this or is a heavy fine also an option?

(just cant imagine banning someone who has paid for supporter)

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11294.24 in reply to 11294.18
Date: 1/3/2008 5:16:50 PM
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out of interest how long from filing a cheat report at the moment does it take to investigate?

Each case is different. Some are very simple: Team A sold player X with a salary of $1k to team B for $2,000,000. Others are not so clear cut. These cases require a little detective work.

Right now it isn't the number of GMs that is the problem, but rather the efficiency of the tools we have at hand. The BBs are working as fast as they can to update these tools. The influx of users over the past few months has put a strain on almost every aspect of the game. It may take a bit of time to return everything to normal.

Edited by GM-BadLarry (1/3/2008 5:17:03 PM CET)

Last edited by ReDonkulous at 1/3/2008 5:17:03 PM

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11294.25 in reply to 11294.23
Date: 1/3/2008 5:19:53 PM
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ok... is banning the only punishment ie. they are guilty or they are not? is it as clear cut as this or is a heavy fine also an option?

(just cant imagine banning someone who has paid for supporter)


Banning is not the only option. However, in a case of deliberate cheating, a ban is almost certain. We certainly can't discriminate against someone with Supporter either. Each user agrees to the same set of rules when he/she signs up. It would not be fair to ban a non-supporter and then fine a supporter for the same crime.

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11294.26 in reply to 11294.17
Date: 1/3/2008 10:20:16 PM
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There are so many variables (i.e. skills) for each player that having a meaningful Transfer Compare is pretty much impossible.


Well, take a real life example. There are dozens of factors that influence the price of a stock. Analysts still manage to come up with a statistically meaningful price for them.

It's difficult, but far from impossible. Actually I do that kind of thing for living :)

If you know anything about econometrics or statistical inference, well, you have to come up with a multi factor model of price.
In our case the factors are blatantly obvious so the difficult part if taken care of. Then you get lots of prices and do a regression (possibly non-linear and with exponential smoothing) and ta-dah you have a pricing model...

The main problem is accessing the data. I need an API for that...

/elboss

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11294.27 in reply to 11294.26
Date: 1/4/2008 3:26:58 PM
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Many people register not only one team. Only one team are real , others are branch.

Then these branch teams can sell the best player and have much money. After that these branch teams can buy @ very high price from the real team.

BB should control this happen again and again.

New register team should not have very good player to let these branch can sell.

Our honesty people are hurt again and again , how long can support us to play BB if cheat always exist ?

BB can not allow same IP address to register team like HT !!!

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