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Yup, I still think you're wrong in part because you're overvaluing the transfer estimates (or likely fabricating it to fit your argument). I have a pretty hard time imagining a sub-$5k star potential player selling for 1.5m (or even $600k). I also find it fairly hard to imagine such a player earning more on the TL than a Hall of Fame prospect with an alright but not great starting salary. But since you sold neither player there's no way for us to figure it out one way or another.

I also find it fairly amazing that you kept notes on the TPE value of your draftees when they were first selected 14 weeks ago. At the very least I think you're drawing extremely broad conclusions from a single draft's worth of experience without selling either of those draft picks.

I feel obligated to point out the merchandising side of it, that if you intend on training the players you drafted, and only those players, then their value on the transfer list doesn't mean very much at all. It would help if we knew how much of a merchandising bonus you got for playing with the players you drafted, as without those numbers it is next to impossible to tell who is correct, but if that is the route that you are choosing to go, you should value potential at what you think its actual value is, not at what the market values it at.

Redaddy, I agree with your assessment for the most part as you can always sell high and buy a prospect you like for less, thus making plenty of money. It is not very smart to give up this money making opportunity AND the fact of the matter is that you don't usually draft the "perfect" trainee for what you are trying to do. If you could draft the "perfect" trainee with perfect skills then great, but it happens few and far between. I understand the other side a bit I guess, because we all know that if you are in D3 and below you may not be wise to train an All-Time Great to their potential as it will probably eat much more salary than can be absorbed by the money generated at those levels of play. However, being able to sell this player and make some money is still the wise thing to do.

As for merchandise I have come to believe that keeping your team in tact has the greatest effect on the merchandising profit...barring the promotion of a player to the NT. I have had up to 8 US born players on my team and am well below the merchandising average because I had a decent player turnover this season due to selling some guys I was training and purchasing new ones on the market.

Reddaddy makes a good point. Always go for potential. While I am all for keeping your own drafties, the truth is you can not know what you are getting in terms of skills. Whatever the grade its still too random. You can get A+ SG with 1 in passing for example or like I got A+ SF with 1 in passing and is. Its just not worth the risk. Go for the potential since its the only accurate estimation you are getting(well more or less that is). For this draft I hope I can get the 18 A 4* SG I am seeing. I hope the 4* turns to be superstar or I would be selling the guy. Then there is skill distribution and height. The draft is just too random. I havent had a single good 18y/o prospect ever. Got some good 19y/o's but still.

I also find it fairly amazing that you kept notes on the TPE value of your draftees when they were first selected 14 weeks ago. At the very least I think you're drawing extremely broad conclusions from a single draft's worth of experience without selling either of those draft picks.

I find it very easy to believe. At the start of every season I print out a hard copy of my team and I write on it the trade value of each player, their BBstats potential, their BuzzerControl rating and their expected position on my team. It is very fun and a bit useful to look at it at the end of the season and see how your team has changed and improved.

On the other hand I scan the TL a LOT and I have never ever found an 18 year old HOF dude for 200K with any skill set at all. Even now if you search for 19 year olds (who are one week off being 20) there are only 3 listed and I doubt any will sell for that price.

Agree, home-grown players and winning games are very important.